Intel G35

[Gary Key]

We received our first retail G35 board today but will not have a performance driver update until early next week. It appears the roll out schedule is going to be slow for this chipset with the majority of designs not reaching the market until December or January. The DX10 (as if it matters considering the requirements of current games) drivers will not be released until March or so, however the current drivers do offer improved DX9 performance over the G965. We will provide a first look sometime during the week of 12/4 along with an early preview of a couple of X38 SFF systems.

 

[Synomenon]

The Shuttle SX38P2? Are you allowed to say what other SFF systems you'll have to review? Maybe a X38 mATX board?

 

[Gary Key]

The G35 board is the ASUS P5E-VM HDMI, no issues with getting a Q6600 up to 9x400 on it if that is in anyone's plan, the BIOS is fairly extensive for overclocking the board, video output quality is much improved over G31/G33, and the one drawback of the board so far is that ASUS used the Realtek ALC883 codec, not a big fan of the 883 when the 888T and 889A are much better if they had to use Realtek.

Yes, we will have the Shuttle X38 SFF system and a board designed to go into a DIY SFF system that is under NDA, hopefully the supplier does not get scared and pull the product.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

What about overclocking 800MHz chips? These should top out around 425MHz FSB.

How's the PWM temp with Q6600 @ 3.6GHz? Any problem dissipating heat in such a small quarter?

 

[Gary Key]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
What about overclocking 800MHz chips? These should top out around 425MHz FSB.

How's the PWM temp with Q6600 @ 3.6GHz? Any problem dissipating heat in such a small quarter?

I have not tried the E2160 yet, will get to that over the weekend, PWM temps looked fine with the board in our Silverstone SG03 case at 9x400 and two fans running along with the retail cooler.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

The downdraft stock fan works well to cool the PWM. I'd test with a non-downdraft CPU cooler (TR Ultra 120) and an overclocked Q6600 @ 3.6GHz. Asus may use more output devices to reduce the peak heat load.

Thanks again for the update.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Gary Key
We will provide a first look sometime during the week of 12/4

Does this affect other, past-due articles?

Is your daughter doing okay?

 

[fatalcure]

how is the HD offloading of the g35? I'm looking for a matx board for htpc and if this can offload HD content, i wouldn't need to purchase a 8500gt.

o and whats the price point of this board?

thanks

 

[VeauX]

Where did you find your P5E-VM HDMI ? this is the mobo I want!

 

[dking1525]

Originally posted by: fatalcure
whats the price point of this board?

This Australian website lists a RRP (recommended retail price?) of $249

I used a currency converter to see how much the guy on the hf paid from that Swedish retailer. $237US plus shipping.

 

[Skott]

One person over at HF posted he has the P5E-VM HDMI now. He's mentioned a vdroop problem.

 

[bsix]

Gary,

When you are looking at benchmarking the G35 if you could compare performance of the G35 to a 8500/8600 card it would be appreciated. I'm looking for a setup that is running a 8800GT or new GTS with the main monitor and a cheap 8500 or integrated video for the secondary monitor. One idea is to having the system setup through a controller program really ramp down the fans on the 8800 when it's loafing and let the secondardy card do the work. Also looking to have as minimal as possible impact of video on second monitor affect first monitor's performance.

 

[fatalcure]

Originally posted by: bsix
Gary,

When you are looking at benchmarking the G35 if you could compare performance of the G35 to a 8500/8600 card it would be appreciated.

Agreed.

here is a semi-first review

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/...id;1776357743;pid;4601


and at $249 i'd rather just get a cheaper matx board w/ a 8500gt for offloading for htpc use, good board for OCing needs tho!

 

[migo]

That's $249 AUD -> $220 USD/CAD. With discounts it'll probably go for $190-$200.

 

[Synomenon]

I hope Gigabyte is releasing a G35 mATX mobo. soon.

 

[Skott]

Asus recently released their newest G35. P5E-VM HDMI. So far only availble in Europe.

 

[Synomenon]

Is this first look still on track for this week?

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: bsix
Gary,

When you are looking at benchmarking the G35 if you could compare performance of the G35 to a 8500/8600 card it would be appreciated.

Huh? No Gary, please don't bother with such a pointless comparison, the results of which we can predict with certainty.

G35 will be a smashing success if its performance is equal to GF 6200, which no other integrated graphics currently on the market can do. Notice that was GF 6200, I did not mean to type GF 6600 instead.

Check back in about five years, which is about how long it would take for state-of-art integrated graphics to reach the performance level that GF 8500 gives today.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Originally posted by: bsix
Gary,

When you are looking at benchmarking the G35 if you could compare performance of the G35 to a 8500/8600 card it would be appreciated.

Huh? No Gary, please don't bother with such a pointless comparison, the results of which we can predict with certainty.

G35 will be a smashing success if its performance is equal to GF 6200, which no other integrated graphics currently on the market can do. Notice that was GF 6200, I did not mean to type GF 6600 instead.

Check back in about five years, which is about how long it would take for state-of-art integrated graphics to reach the performance level that GF 8500 gives today.

the gma 3100 and x3000 are more or less at 6200 turbo cache levels already. its still behind the 6200 with dedicated memory, but not many of those were made on pci-e.


but the x3000 definitely is on par with a 7100gs/6200tc.

 

[Synomenon]

The P5E-VM HDMI is up on Asus USA's site now and ExcaliberPC has it on their site (not in stock though).

http://usa.asus.com/products.a...l1=3&l2=11&l3=584&l4=0

http://www.excaliberpc.com/ASU...artinfo-id-584089.html

 

[Skott]

Should see it in U.S. stores soon then. I been hearing some good things about it. I couldnt wait and got another P5K-VM. A very nice mATX mobo.

 

[Synomenon]

The P5E-VM HDMI looks nice, but it doesn't have any eSATA ports on the backplane. Also, they should have used the ALC889 instead of the 883 for audio. I hope Gigabyte puts out a G35 mATX board soon.

 

[Synomenon]

Here's Gigabyte's G35 mATX board:

GIGABYTE GA-G35M-DS2R
http://www.computerbase.de/bild/news/17135/25/

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: hans007
the gma 3100 and x3000 are more or less at 6200 turbo cache levels already. its still behind the 6200 with dedicated memory, but not many of those were made on pci-e.

but the x3000 definitely is on par with a 7100gs/6200tc.

The Turbo Cache models with adequate onboard RAM are not all that much slower than the non-TC models. e.g. 128MB or 256MB onboard

But yeah, I was referring to the non-TC models, both PCI-E and AGP.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Skott
One person over at HF posted he has the P5E-VM HDMI now. He's mentioned a vdroop problem.

Aren't vdroop problems common with Asus boards? I know my P5K-VM has it.