Intel G35

[Synomenon]

A number of places have the P5E-VM HDMI now:

http://www.google.com/products...-VM%22%2BG35&scoring=p


Pretty expensive for a mATX board. Wonder when Newegg or ClubIT will be getting it.

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Skott
One person over at HF posted he has the P5E-VM HDMI now. He's mentioned a vdroop problem.

Aren't vdroop problems common with Asus boards? I know my P5K-VM has it.

Yes. Some models have a more prominent problem than others. I understand there is a mod for this mobo already.

 

[Synomenon]

Newegg has the P5E-VM HDMI in stock now. Gary, any word on that G35 article?

 

[adiv12121]

Has anyone gotten a G35 board yet? If so, how are the video and overclocking capabilites?

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
any word on that G35 article?

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

Originally posted by: adiv12121
Has anyone gotten a G35 board yet? If so, how are the video and overclocking capabilites?

Welcome to the forums!

Sure, some have. There are reports of 600MHz FSB (unstable) and 540MHz FSB (stable). Integrated video is a bit improved, so it is fine for Vista Aero and most older games, some newer games may not be that great an experience. OpenGL support is not very strong.

 

[Skott]

P5E-VM HDMI reviews are popping up now. VRZone gave it a 85. Just google it and you should find the reviews. I got a feeling this mobo will get alot of attention from reviewers due to its HDMI abilities and its quality overclocking.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Skott
P5E-VM HDMI reviews are popping up now. VRZone gave it a 85. Just google it and you should find the reviews.

Right... reviews at places except for Anandtech.

I fully expect to see more reviews of regular ATX boards around here before seeing more mATX board reviews, but who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly suprised. Then again, maybe Duke Nukem Forever will come out first. :shocked:

 

[Skott]

DNF or mATX reviews first? Hmmm, I dont want to bet either way on that one. Although either would be cool if it happened.

 

[IntelUser2000]

however the current drivers do offer improved DX9 performance over the G965. We will provide a first look sometime during the week of 12/4 along with an early preview of a couple of X38 SFF systems.

We'll see on the actual tests, but I don't believe that it'll be any faster than G965. With the same testings done at VR-Zone, I got 88 fps on Q3A. Very disappointing because the G35 board got 64.9 fps and it has a faster CPU and memory. It doesn't even have more unified EUs that were rumored for quite a long time. G35 still has 8 EUs just like the G965, and still the game core clock. The major advancement is the video capability. Probably all Intel did was just take a G965 core and enabled DX10 support.

The most overrated IGP, period.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
With the same testings done at VR-Zone, I got 88 fps on Q3A.

Well, I don't think Q3A is a good test for it in a sense because it uses OpenGL which seems to be barely supported. Intel is probably concentrating more on Direct3D since more games use it.

 

[gorobei]

was hdmi enabled on the G33 with full pci-e x16? I remember the gigabyte board with hdmi only having 4x or something. If the G35 has hdmi, full x16paths, and dx10 then its still a decent upgrade over the 965G. Yeah it's not a performance jump but rather a feature increase.

I'm about 95% certain I'll be buying the p5e vm sometime in january. Unless gigabyte comes out with some monster of an overclocker, which is hardly likely.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Just bought one for $139 at the Egg. It's gonna take me some time to run it, because I'm waiting for the e8400/e8500 45nm chips.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Well, I don't think Q3A is a good test for it in a sense because it uses OpenGL which seems to be barely supported. Intel is probably concentrating more on Direct3D since more games use it.

True, but they are basically the same architecture, which makes it even more damn disappointing. I think it could be also bad because of Vista, but it also tells that there is NO performance advance.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Just bought one for $139 at the Egg. It's gonna take me some time to run it, because I'm waiting for the e8400/e8500 45nm chips.

Why buy something at regular price knowing that you don't need it for a while? I could understand if it were on sale or something, but by the time those CPUs are out, there could be a better board or Asus could come out with a new/better revision of this board.

Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
it also tells that there is NO performance advance.

Well, IMO driver optimizations (as long as they don't kill IQ) can be thought of as a performance advance. Remember the original Nvidia "Detonator" driver?

 

[gorobei]

nice review of the board and performance
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article785-page1.html

may need some custom cooling for the northbridge if you intend to OC.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Well, IMO driver optimizations (as long as they don't kill IQ) can be thought of as a performance advance. Remember the original Nvidia "Detonator" driver?

Intel is nowhere near doing performance optimizations. They still need to fix hell of a lot of bugs present on the driver. At least the previous detonator drivers were stable in image quality and such, Intel drivers are not. So before they try to differentiate the G35 from the G965, they gotta get the bugs fixed.

It all is more true because G35 only brings video enhancements and DX10 support in hardware. There is still the same 8 unified EUs, and 667MHz core. Even preliminary benchmarks show its not much different from a G965. Perhaps its like comparing Pentium 4 32-bit vs. Pentium 4 64-bit. Matter of enabling things. Same performance.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
any word on that G35 article?

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

Originally posted by: adiv12121
Has anyone gotten a G35 board yet? If so, how are the video and overclocking capabilites?

Welcome to the forums!

Sure, some have. There are reports of 600MHz FSB (unstable) and 540MHz FSB (stable). Integrated video is a bit improved, so it is fine for Vista Aero and most older games, some newer games may not be that great an experience. OpenGL support is not very strong.

Wait, Zap, you are saying that these new MATX boards have better overclocking capabilities than the cream-of-the-crop P35 boards? I wonder then if one of these boards wouldn't be better for overclocking a penryn quad.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: gorobei
nice review of the board and performance
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article785-page1.html

may need some custom cooling for the northbridge if you intend to OC.

Strange review, they only tested with one DIMM, so therefore disabling dual-channel memory, which would be of significant performance benefit to the integrated video.

 

[gorobei]

wish shuttle sold separate m/b's
http://www.vr-zone.com/article..._Better%3F/5448-4.html

I'm diggin' the location of the pcie x16 slot. Probably frees up a good bit of internal space.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Just bought one for $139 at the Egg. It's gonna take me some time to run it, because I'm waiting for the e8400/e8500 45nm chips.

Why buy something at regular price knowing that you don't need it for a while? I could understand if it were on sale or something, but by the time those CPUs are out, there could be a better board or Asus could come out with a new/better revision of this board.

Decided not to wait and purchased an e6750 - since when the 45s come out they may fetch a price premium, and I decided I want to get this working sooner rather than later. Evidently, based on the reiews I've read, OCing should be a breeze with this board...

 

[Skott]

The E6750 is a great cpu. Its a nice mid range performance chip in stock form that shouldnt be a bottleneck and it OC very nicely. Supposedly the end of 2008 Intel is doing a socket change so everyone will be buying new mobos for those new chips. No sense in going all out if this is true. That E6750 will be fine for the rest of this year I'm thinking. Then in beginning of 2009 upgrade again with the new socket mobos and the cpus that run on them.

 

[gorobei]

Another asus p5e vm hdmi review. nice to see the strap selection in bios. Turns out there is some performance improvement over the G33 IGP. minor OC stuff at the end of the article.
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2007/asus/p5e-vm-hdmi/g1.htm

anyone heard about the ASUS P5E VM DO? Q35 chipset.
http://www.superwarehouse.com/...P=KAC-PositionTechFeed

 

[IntelUser2000]

It looks like Intel has basically abandoned the G35, and is focusing all their work on the G45. The only manufacturer of the board based on the chipset is Asus. Not even Intel has G35 based motherboards. Kinda sounds like Pentium D vs. Core 2 Duo situation. Hope the G45 turns out similarly .

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
It looks like Intel has basically abandoned the G35, and is focusing all their work on the G45. The only manufacturer of the board based on the chipset is Asus.

And what a board it is! Or so I've read. I should sell off my two Asus P5K-VM boards (currently only using one) and buy the P5E-VM HDMI.

 

[dingetje]

the P5E-VM HDMI seems to be a sweet matx board (and the only candidate if you want to do some decent matx-mobo overclocking)
....but i'm holding off to see what the g45 boards can do (hopefully in april)....damn, wait a bit longer and nehalem will come along to change everything again :/