Thanks for adding that info.They are. I know they are being sued by share holders right now, unless it has been settled.
The reason is Dell was making money on kick backs, not its operations. As such the share price should not as been as high and also the information dell released would then be tainted.
"Shortly after the resignation of its chief executive, Dell reeled from another blow as a group of investors filed a lawsuit alleging that the company had used illegal accounting methods to hide secret kickback payments paid by Intel.
The payments from Intel were meant to ensure that Dell used only Intel processors in its PCs, according to the suit. The investors filing the suit Wednesday asked the U.S. District Court in Austin, Texas, to give the case class-action status, saying that Dell shareholders were harmed when Dell inflated its profits."
Oh how ironic would it be to find out AMD is paying off NY to fine Intel for anti-competitive practices? I wouldn't call it hypocritical but it's like one giant circle jerk... Intel paying PC distributers to screw AMD and AMD paying NY to screw Intel.
I don't know what you're talking about. I've signed many such exclusivity agreements to get better discounts and rebates from suppliers.
A screw for a screw and the whole world gets AIDS?Oh how ironic would it be to find out AMD is paying off NY to fine Intel for anti-competitive practices? I wouldn't call it hypocritical but it's like one giant circle jerk... Intel paying PC distributers to screw AMD and AMD paying NY to screw Intel.
You have signed nothing that is like what they are doing. Stop trolling and read up on it.
...and if you have....err...:hmm:..might want to shred some documents :awe:
Actually people need to be asking why the Bush administration didn't do this.
There is something wrong with it when you have 85 percent of the market and are using the money to perpetuate a virtual monoply.
lol...how long until an ATPN troll blames the jews?
No, they were taught plenty in economics and history. They, however, weren't taught anything in Ethics from neither their teachers nor parents. Some people just have really weak morals... or none at all.It's like a whole generation of Americans were taught nothing about economics or history.
Cleary the corporatization of America is at hand.
A screw for a screw and the whole world gets AIDS?
And is it just me, or do some people suck at crime.
If you're doing something illegal, a paper trail is generally not a good thing, because it's the kind of thing that can sometimes find itself being reclassified as "evidence." If you're not a fan of jail or fines, this sort of reclassification is generally a rather bad thing.
Back in the Athlon/P4 era it was pretty obvious that shenaniganry was afoot and many of us brought it up often. All kinds of "reasons" were given as to why Dell wouldn't use AMD, but most of us Users knew they were all BS.
I worked for a company that to this day still doesn't build computers with AMD. The owners said AMD sucks and won't use them. I can guarantee they weren't getting any kickbacks. They were idiots that knew very little about computers and even less about business.
Dell probably made the decision that the money they saved by buying Intel in volume would offset any lost sales for not using AMD. And besides, anyone buying a Dell wouldn't know who AMD is anyway. No fault there on the side of Dell in that position. Plus, they would have difficulty selling anything Intel in their cheap lines since AMD would be cheaper and faster.
Actually people need to be asking why the Bush administration didn't do this.
Go take a look at the CPU forum and see how many people are recommending Intel chips. As long as the fines are smaller than the gains from these dodgy dealings and consumers don't have the backbone to refuse to deal with such despicable companies, Intel will always come out ahead.
It seems like a lot of people here don't realize that there are different "rules" you have to follow when you have a monopoly. Most of the responses on this forum supporting the rebates seem to be naive and short-sighted... anyone who's studied any economics knows that a monopoly is not optimal for the consumer. I don't believe that Intel is trying to run AMD out of business, since I'm sure they can see the Antitrust issues that would arise from that outcome, but I think this is exactly where they want AMD to be, down but not out.
Personally I find it funny to hear people trash talk AMD... they manage to compete with Intel using only a very small fraction of a research budget. AMD may not come out on top, but they definitely keep themselves in the ball game.
Except that the discounts are NOT for buying in volume they are for NOT buying AMD chips.
Obama administration has been in office for just 11 months. An investigation like this takes years.We could also ask why the Obama administration isn't doing this Since it is NY state thats doing it not the feds bonehead.
Not at the lowend. Athlon II > Pentium C2D