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gdansk

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They are rather something of the underdog in the GPU industry... not that they deserve sympathy but it would have been a nice 3rd choice had they arrived in timely manner
 
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DeathReborn

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They are rather something of the underdog in the GPU industry... not that they deserve sympathy but it would have been a nice 3rd choice had they arrived in timely manner

Discrete they're... non existent, but if you include IGP then they're the big scary ogre of the industry.
 

ultimatebob

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A monopolistic company worth almost 200 billion dollars who has been essentially lying to investors for years and an executive who has been overpromising and underperforming for almost a decade now are weak?

If they released this graphics card six months ago as scheduled, they could have ended the graphic card shortage early. But, no... they had to screw it up and make us all suffer a bit longer.
 

ultimatebob

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No. Miners would have bought it all up. Now nobody will.

That depends on whether or not the Intel cards could mine crypto well. We won't know how well they mine until they're released, and even then it will probably take the miners a few months to write an Intel-optimized miner.

Who knows... Ethereum mining might be dead by then!
 

jpiniero

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That depends on whether or not the Intel cards could mine crypto well. We won't know how well they mine until they're released, and even then it will probably take the miners a few months to write an Intel-optimized miner.

If it had been released 6 months ago, miners would have made it work even if Intel hadn't.
 

ultimatebob

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At this point, I'm starting to wonder if Nvidia is going to release their 4000 series cards before Intel gets Arc desktop shipped.
 

LightningZ71

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Intel would have had a greater impact in the industry, at this point, if they had just devoted 50% more silicon in their mobile Alder Lake SKUs to the Xe iGPU to take advantage of the additional DDR5 bandwidth now available. 128-144 EUs running at a slightly higher clock than what they had in Tiger Lake would have done a number on the Nvidia MX level cards and kept AMD honest with the 6400 mobile. Unfortunately, they didn't do that, nor have they made any great strides in their drivers, and there's no additional competitive pressure on the low end of the market, allowing duds like the 2050 mobile, MX500 series and, yes, even the 6400 to be pedaled in the mobile space.
 

moinmoin

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Eh? During the long period of core amount stagnation the iGPU size was actually what Intel "improved" between generations. Which of course on the desktop was completely superficial considering essentially everybody gaming used a dGPU anyway. The fact that Intel has been doing iGPUs for so long already doesn't seem to help it pushing out dGPUs.
 

Stuka87

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Intel would have had a greater impact in the industry, at this point, if they had just devoted 50% more silicon in their mobile Alder Lake SKUs to the Xe iGPU to take advantage of the additional DDR5 bandwidth now available. 128-144 EUs running at a slightly higher clock than what they had in Tiger Lake would have done a number on the Nvidia MX level cards and kept AMD honest with the 6400 mobile. Unfortunately, they didn't do that, nor have they made any great strides in their drivers, and there's no additional competitive pressure on the low end of the market, allowing duds like the 2050 mobile, MX500 series and, yes, even the 6400 to be pedaled in the mobile space.

Their chips already consume too much power and run too hot. Pushing that up even higher isn't really an option.
 
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