Actually the Alienware guy said it was unrealistic to expect Intel to top on the first try, not that it would concretely not beat the 2080 Ti.
I think there was a Alienware exec who said the top product would be slower than the 2080 Ti?
Actually the Alienware guy said it was unrealistic to expect Intel to top on the first try, not that it would concretely not beat the 2080 Ti.
10% slower than 2080Ti $500 would still be a huge win for consumers
When I first saw that slide, I couldn't help but smile. Majority buying up indeed. Here's to all the defenders of the increased prices as solely a function of increased production costs.A $500 card performing like x80 of that generation is still competitive and be a very good first try. Also while people seem to talk like Turing is the generation that got things more expensive lineup to lineup, its actually Pascal that did that. That's despite the die size being significantly smaller due to 14nm.
The reason being due to this.
https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/RTX-Slide-NV.png
A $500 card performing like x80 of that generation is still competitive and be a very good first try.
When I first saw that slide, I couldn't help but smile. Majority buying up indeed. Here's to all the defenders of the increased prices as solely a function of increased production costs.
As the saying goes, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all of the time.
Gimme me more money baby.I don't think that slide is saying what you think it's saying.
Gimme me more money baby.
On a more serious note. As you can see on the slide, it says Investors day. We're getting them to spend more, so our stock price has room to grow. If you have another interpretation, I'd like to read it.
They're saying that customers are buying up the stack. This means that in previous gens if they'd bought an x70 card, they're now maybe buying an x80 card. It doesn't mean, "We jacked up the prices on parts that cost the same to make."
Does the fact that the iPhone X was the best-selling iPhone during its time as flagship mean that Apple jacked up prices without a commensurate cost structure increase? No! There were iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus available at the same prices, but people found enough value in the iPhone X's features to pay more. That's what NVIDIA says is happening here.
They're saying that customers are buying up the stack. This means that in previous gens if they'd bought an x70 card, they're now maybe buying an x80 card. It doesn't mean, "We jacked up the prices on parts that cost the same to make."
They're saying that customers are buying up the stack. This means that in previous gens if they'd bought an x70 card, they're now maybe buying an x80 card. It doesn't mean, "We jacked up the prices on parts that cost the same to make."
Does the fact that the iPhone X was the best-selling iPhone during its time as flagship mean that Apple jacked up prices without a commensurate cost structure increase? No! There were iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus available at the same prices, but people found enough value in the iPhone X's features to pay more. That's what NVIDIA says is happening here.
No, it means that John who bought the 1070 and now is buying the 2070 for a generational jump in performance is the equivalent of buying up the stack, because the 2070 is no longer in the same price bracket. Nvidia is letting the investors know that the switcheroo worked.This means that in previous gens if they'd bought an x70 card, they're now maybe buying an x80 card.
The iPhone X was the equivalent of Nvidia launching the Titan for consumers: an addition to their product stack, more expensive but clearly separated from the classic branding. If you look at what's happening with Apple's product stack right now, it is the exact same process that Nvidia started with their Titan cards and finished with their 2080Ti transition, and the proof is the absence of a new $649 - 699 iPhone.Does the fact that the iPhone X was the best-selling iPhone during its time as flagship mean that Apple jacked up prices without a commensurate cost structure increase? No! There were iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus available at the same prices, but people found enough value in the iPhone X's features to pay more. That's what NVIDIA says is happening here.
You're reading the graph wrong. The arrows are connecting the same nomenclatures. People are paying more for the same nomenclature and that is what the graph is clearly showing.
I get it.It would seem to me, there is a good reason people are buying up the stack. If you want meaningful improvements, you have to, as cards are not increasing in performance like they used to.
If you look at what's happening with Apple's product stack right now, it is the exact same process that Nvidia started with their Titan cards and finished with their 2080Ti transition, and the proof is the absence of a new $649 - 699 iPhone.
I don't make money with my GTX1080TI and I don't make money with my Radeon VII. I don't make money with my GTX 1080.I think video cards priced at $500 much less even higher are totally ridiculous for people to be buying unless they are making money from them.
Do you play at 4K? That is the only reason I can see for spending $500 or even more on a dGPU.I don't make money with my GTX1080TI and I don't make money with my Radeon VII. I don't make money with my GTX 1080.
I just like very fast video cards and I am lucky enough at age 68 to be able to now afford them.
Do you play at 4K? That is the only reason I can see for spending $500 or even more on a dGPU.
No thanks, playing 4K will require me to get a 4K display and pay more for a high end GPU then I ever did before. I think $320 is the most I have ever spent on one.If you want 1440p 144 MHz with all quality levels cranked up to max, you're gonna have to pay to play. 4K isn't the only reason to pay that much.
And really, there still isn't anything on the market that lets you hit 144 MHz minfps in everything. Not even a 2080Ti can boast that. Maybe if you OC.