Cause it is Intel they know how SW works and how to sell even mid products by patching them with SW and the only success alchemist GPU is A380/310
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Cause it is Intel they know how SW works and how to sell even mid products by patching them with SW and the only success alchemist GPU is A380/310Everyone, this is Intel we are talking about. They would've honestly ditched Battlemage if it weren't at least mildly profitable. I think people are forgetting that they can increase yields through built-in redundancies. Maybe that's also why the die is so large. And they are further controlling for any defects with the B570. I find all this speculation about Intel's dGPU profits pretty tiring. Alchemist should have failed with how many problems it had but clearly they found a market with users who play only a limited number of esports titles or the latest games at acceptable framerates of at least 30 fps with XeSS upscaling.
DefinitelyYou think only WE have problems with Nvidia pricing? What about third world countries? Their only options are Radeon and ARC. Someone working in a mall or at a store in the US can afford Nvidia GPUs with their credit card. Someone doing the same in a third world country would be stupid to do that and end up working for years to pay off the price of one Nvidia GPU. Radeons and ARC GPUs are more prevalent and attractive in low income markets.
Superior vs WhatThey have no reason to drop the price and dilute their brand further. Plus, the 9600X is a clearly superior product and actually well priced for its capabilities.
Superior vs What
245K is fine for 310$ as well
Btw same link 9600X is loosing in productivity and renderingIntel Core Ultra 5 245K Review
The Intel Core Ultra 5 245K is the company's most affordable Arrow Lake release today. While its 6+8 core config without Hyper-Threading might make it appear weak at first, it actually punches well above its weight, especially in applications. Unfortunately gaming isn't working so well.www.techpowerup.com
9600X beating even 285K.
Did you and punsiher swapped roles 😂😂Intel GPU thread, let's not AMD CPU benchmark
You have not been here long so I'll give you a mulligan on this comment. It isn't permitted to callout moderation anywhere but the moderation discussions forum. Things get out of hand really fast otherwise. Thanks in advance for your understanding and compliance.Did you and punsiher swapped roles 😂😂
I have watched it all the nicest question asked was will Intel cancel the ARC and regarding Framegen and ofc how dGPU helps their iGPUI'll keep updating on the TAP talk as I listen. He said that going from iGPU and scaling to no longer being completely GPU bound was something they failed to fully understand when designing ARC. And those design issues were holistic; both software and hardware.
Makes you wonder what Raja Koduri was doing there during development with his YEARS of experienceHe said that going from iGPU and scaling to no longer being completely GPU bound was something they failed to fully understand when designing ARC. And those design issues were holistic; both software and hardware.
I can't speak to any of that; no idea.Makes you wonder what Raja Koduri was doing there during development with his YEARS of experience
Makes sense, it being a limited edition. I guess it's gonna get scalped. The design is nice with lower temps and better airflow, perfect for HTPCs.He hinted their own LE won't be a worldwide launch?
Answering why no big board partners? TAP said what we are all speculating; that Jensen can incentivizes them not to carry ARC. The other reason was scale, as Intel is still not doing the volume Asus, MSI, Gigabyte are accustomed to.Makes sense, it being a limited edition. I guess it's gonna get scalped. The design is nice with lower temps and better airflow, perfect for HTPCs.
Reasonable. Even sounds like Sapphire is spinning back up a old sub brand, Onix (sp?) to carry Intel. So it makes sense that we might get some "new but old" brands so that these AIBs can sell Intel but have their main brands buffered (and partnerships honored) from any risk.Answering why no big board partners? TAP said what we are all speculating; that Jensen can incentivizes them not to carry ARC. The other reason was scale, as Intel is still not doing the volume Asus, MSI, Gigabyte are accustomed to.
Their only options are Radeon and ARC
Who is saying take the gamble now just wait for the reviews when are they coming btw4060 is 50 bucks more expensive than this, that's 250 of hard earned money for a v2 of the gamble or sure thing for 50 bucks more - and the price will drop in a few months to sell off old stocks, chance are now 5060 will have to have 12 GB, all NVIDIA needs is 3 GBit/chip GDDR7 and they will wipe the floor with this: 6 months from now.
No consumer is looking at Inteld margin that is Intels problem not ConsumersNow if Intel launched this card (with current drivers) 2 years ago when low end GPU pricing was 500+ bucks, then MAYBE it would have worked, but now it's too little too late, and no - no way they are making good money on it if at all, it's a 300 sq mm chip on a fairly new process that isn't getting cheaper!
A few years? The 4060 is already a serious compromise that can't leverage all of the features at decent resolution and settings in more and more new games because the frame buffer is too small. The only sure thing about it, is that anyone buying one is getting ripped off. I know it sells well and many are happy with it; ignorance is bliss.add $50 more hard earned money in few years the 8GB will be obsolete for 1440P
This I gotta hear!TAP said what we are all speculating; that Jensen can incentivizes them not to carry ARC.
Answering why no big board partners?
We are talking about 3rd world countries here, remember? 1080p is ok resolution to play for a while, ray tracing won't be viable on such low end card anyway.Also 250$ hard earned money add $50 more hard earned money in few years the 8GB will be obsolete for 1440P
No consumer is looking at Inteld margin that is Intels problem not Consumers
Ah, he's good. I thought he was accusing Jensen of anti-competitive practices which could've landed him into legal trouble. He's just saying that Jensen can make money flow his way by promising pennies per card which I don't doubt.This I gotta hear!
He is still taking college courses. Not certain if it was towards another degree or not. He used to be with Nvidia, and he definitely qualifies as an expert. Ryan was holding him back IMO, as the Q&A between them always came off as too rehearsed with too much sales pitch. TAP alone sales it with a much more honest approach. Would that the rest of Intel followed his formula.This I gotta hear!
EDIT: Listening to The Price section. Dang, TAP should be called Professor GPU or something. He's easy on the ears and none of what he is saying is pure BS. He is a good talker without repeating himself and clearly seems to have done his homework.
Watch the interview with Tim from HUB. Tom Petersen admits they aren't making any profits with Arc so far.Everyone, this is Intel we are talking about. They would've honestly ditched Battlemage if it weren't at least mildly profitable.