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FlameTail

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Unreal Engine 5 Nanite didn't work on Arc Alchemist iirc.

Does Arc Battlemage fix this?
 

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With only a few hours to go, I predict Battlemage is great and reviewers will recommend them. Hopefully gives the GPUs industry a good shake up.

Yeah, would be great if baseline finally moved up a notch, low end hardware is holding back games for sure.
 
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Reviews in like 2 hrs?

Is there game frustration discussion thread?
cause Promised consort Radahn is just kicking my ***
 
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Hopefully, 2025 is the year when 8 GB cards become as useful as a Geforce 1650, at least in all new and notable games.

Would be awesome if Nvidia has to cancel their 5060 and 5060 Ti both 8GB due to overwhelmingly negative response.
 
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DAPUNISHER

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I don't know if Phil at gamesradar is a shill, dumbass, or both. From the end of the article - https://www.gamesradar.com/hardware...st-the-nvidia-rtx-4060-should-watch-its-back/

If you do decide to grab an Arc B580 for $249 at launch, there are a couple of potential caveats I'd keep in mind. The first is that Intel's GPU debut got off to a pretty rocky start last year, resulting in performance-related driver issues that required a flow of steady updates. Alchemist cards are in a much better place now than at launch, but since Battlemage is a different architecture, similar hiccups are always a possibility.
It's been almost 2.5 yrs Phil; could you be more lazy? Nor are AMD and Nvidia immune to "hiccups" when launching new generations.

The other biggie tied to Intel GPUs right now is AI upscaling. The Arc B580 and other Battlemage cards will have access to XeSS 2 and it's frame generation magic tricks, but with Nvidia DLSS going from strength to strength and outperforming even AMD's FSR consistently, there could be a significant frame rate gap between the RTX 4060 and new B560 with upscaling switched on. The green team's tools could make the difference between being able to comfortably play at 1440p or having to firmly stick with 1080p in new releases, translating to a more futureproofed experience.
That's Nvidia marketing for you; VRAM Phil, vram is what will provide better longevity. Once we get past the 30 second test run stuff, and breakdown what happens when you play the games? All of the low vram issues will make the visual quality lower and frame pacing worse, on the 4060.
 

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That is a much stronger performance than I was expecting. Performance is still a bit all over the place; it'll be interesting to see how it compares to the competition in new year once they get another couple months of driver updates.
 

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Intel has competent SW team but they can't take over the work for Game developers it should send a signal for Game developer to optimize for Intel as well
 
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They haven't fixed idle power draw though 🥲 it's a lot lower now though
 

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DOA - too little too late, and the chip size is so big that Intel unlikely to make enough anyway as it would only increase their losses.
 

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As anticipated, initial stock sold through quickly. And it is the king of the under $300 market. I think the pricing on the B570 is too close. It may do well at first if the B580 is hard to buy, but after that it'll just upsell everyone. It needs to be $199 so it can be king of the that tier.

A series needs to go full firesale to clear it out.

Next up: Need to see it in old DX9 and 11 games. How bad is it without rebar? As bad as the A series?

Seems like some AMD Sponsored games are where performance tanks.
DOA - too little too late, and the chip size is so big that Intel unlikely to make enough anyway as it would only increase their losses.
LMAO DOA does not mean what you think it means. It is stealing share from AMD and Nv and sold through the fist shipments with demand that surprised the retailers.
 
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