It seems like AMD older generation is aging kind of badly. The RTX 3070 used to be very close to the 6700xt.
Same with the RTX 3060 and rx 6600. Like less than a 10% difference in performance. Now It's way worse. Like double the performance difference.
Techpowerup is showing similar results. Below is old results.
This is from the B580 review.
This probably tells you something about the current usefulness of bar graphs, particularly ones that average age a lot of data and don’t show 1% lows.Usually its the reverse. This should be particularly the case for the RTX 3070. The RTX 3080 is now 6900xt in performance.
Has AMD layoffs affected their last gen performance? Correction, even the RX 7600 is starting to lose performance too. The RTX 4070 super used to be 7% faster than a 7800xt now it is 15%.
AMD cards are aging badly , particularly their last generation.
Battlemage still underperforms in games, in both 1080p and 1440p.Leaked radeon 9070xt 3dmark score :22894
Predicted B770 3dmark score :22-24k
Would be hilarious if intel did 399$ B770 (negative margins) and gobble up all the mss xD
Ye i know they underperfom in gaming but saying that overall performance =11.5k is wrong.Battlemage still underperforms in games, in both 1080p and 1440p.
Review: MAXSUN Intel Arc B580 iCraft 12G Graphics Card (Page 21)
Intel has expanded its GPU lineup with the introduction of the ARC B580 Limited Edition, part of the Battlemage series, in collaboration with Maxun. This graphics card is aimed at the mainstream market segment and is priced at $249 USD.www.guru3d.com
14.5K card is performing like a 11.5K one. If we take that then 24K B770 will perform like 3080 Ti/6800XT. That's with a 7950X3D. Lower end CPUs will perform worse, not to mention B770 will run even more into driver overhead.
$399 B770 will have better margins than B580, because fixed costs as a portion to total goes down. Per device they're probably making small amount of money with B580, but losing because of not enough volume.
How am I wrong? It performs just under 3060 Ti in games overall at 1080p. 3060 Ti gets better than 11.5K. Just under 3060 Ti is 11.5K performance overall.Ye i know they underperfom in gaming but saying that overall performance =11.5k is wrong.
Yea and overall that's regular 4070 performance. Something that'll be 5060 class by then.Should be the same for B770 (if it comes out) in one game rx4060ti in other 4070 ti super. But in 6+ months it could even out, a little.
There are some games that underperform horribly. If we are talking 1440p and you cut the very underperforming games you are looking at ~4060ti/6700xt perf.How am I wrong? It performs just under 3060 Ti in games overall at 1080p. 3060 Ti gets better than 11.5K. Just under 3060 Ti is 11.5K performance overall.
Overclocking makes it perform just 8-10% better. Ok, but nothing noticeable. Nobody would notice it when playing actually. 4060 also gets around there for OC.
Yea and overall that's regular 4070 performance. Something that'll be 5060 class by then.
I hope Intel is working on a big driver to really get the overhead down.
I think the damaged slot damaged the ARC card.the guy called me now to say that not only is the card DOA, it seems to power-spike the system.
I think Dig Dog forced his card out without releasing the PCI-E plastic lock toggle and damaged his card and motherboard.I think the damaged slot damaged the ARC card.
Yeah but he did that with the older RX 590 card. Seems the slot got damaged and then damaged the ARC card too.I think Dig Dog forced his card out without releasing the PCI-E plastic lock toggle and damaged his card and motherboard.
Yeah of course you wouldn't do that unless you were in a mood to see sparks or fireworks. I had my RX 580 destroy my mobo's PCIe slot because I was running Pi VR configuration application and simply clicked Edge browser. The card's fans went into insane overdrive and PC froze. On the next boot, no card would get detected on the mobo so the PCIe slot was fried. And if your 590 was from XFX, it would make perfect sense since mine was that brand too.you guys know i wasnt swapping cards with the power on, yeah??!?!
Hey, maybe they will send you a pre-production B770 by mistakeim getting an RMA, which in itself was a problem because it had been issued for a Arc A40, but i got them in writing it will work fine.
Nuke it from orbit!omfg i still have no video out from the cpu igpu. really getting on my nerves now.
The latch on the PCI-E slot automatically locks just like a DRAM slot on a motherboard when you fully insert your GPU. You have to unlock the latch to remove the card. You obviously ripped the card out of the slot without unlocking the latch. Is it a wonder to you how the latch became broken? You essentially destroyed your motherboard and apparently a brand new GPU in the process.the guy said the b580 posted maybe once out of 20 times from his test bench.
im getting an RMA, which in itself was a problem because it had been issued for a Arc A40, but i got them in writing it will work fine.
it's really forkked up that the latch of the pcie getting broken somehow caused the whole slot to fail, which then caused the card to get overvolted, which then caused the card to dump excess power to go into the board, to the point where it was no longer functional.
this is poor engineering if you ask me. everything else in existence has some kind of voltage protection ..
Waiting for the BM Halo@igor_kavinski why you no buy?!?
I thought you had a 5600X and not a 5600G?omfg i still have no video out from the cpu igpu.
oh...I thought you had a 5600X and not a 5600G?