For getting at the release lever I use a spudger - https://www.ifixit.com/products/spudger?variant=39371666522215&pk_kwd=&gad_source=1oh...
ok i go to the old folks home
hell let me call the graveyard directly
We still don't have a single member with a B580 up and running to provide feedback? @igor_kavinski why you no buy?!? The way this is going I will pick one up when there is stock. I want the LE version again.
I'm using an old system, and I have a rebar problem with no solution. I've been trying to fix it for days, but unfortunately, I couldn't. Without rebar, the performance is also very poor, and no game runs properly.
In comparison to the other brands, it really is a lot to ask of most users to use the 32 and 64bit DXVK and mod their old boards for rebar. The CPU driver overhead as you pointed out can be problematic with an old i7 too. Not everyone is happy with it either -ReBar isn't just a performance issue, but compatibility as well:
It absolutely is. Nobody is competent in everything, computer "noobs" just don't care about computers as we do, so it should be simple to use.In comparison to the other brands, it really is a lot to ask of most users to use the 32 and 64bit DXVK and mod their old boards for rebar. The CPU driver overhead as you pointed out can be problematic with an old i7 too. Not everyone is happy with it either -
Yea you need opposing viewpoints even if it comes with some flack. That's how genuine progress happens. Everything else is a way to censorship.PC Centric had to have a segment attempting to explain things to his viewers in the following video, because they went HAM on him after his initial review. Vid is time stamped -
Intel is a CPU company and it's possible during Arc dev they decided to do certain things on CPU rather than on GPU (like hardware scheduling was more common in Radeons vs Nvidia relying on free hardware from users), or (more likely) just incompetent software dev that is basically catch all for almost all Intel made software (can't think of anything good other than their Compilers/Profilers stack).the CPU overhead will become much worse.
?Intel is a CPU company and it's possible during Arc dev they decided to do certain things on CPU rather than on GPU (like hardware scheduling was more common in Radeons vs Nvidia relying on free hardware from users),
This is not some startup making something they have made drivers before they need to do better tbh?
Nvidia uses driver-based scheduling and AMD uses hardware scheduling. Nvidia has higher overhead than AMD likely for this reason. Intel since Iris moved to driver-based scheduling as well, but they are far less competent than Nvidia at making graphics drivers.
It would be great for video to video AI where u need min 24GB for decent results. Even at 400$ it would be great... Im not spending 2.3k$ for 4090 just to have some fun in video to video.Hope the 24GB VRAM card isn't more than $350.
I know. Though startups can be surprisingly good though because they are smaller and have much less layers and bureaucracy to go through. Intel has many, many of them plus they have a longstanding culture issue.This is not some startup making something they have made drivers before they need to do better tbh
It'll only be that cheap if it's B580 24GB. Since they are talking about a "productivity part" they're talking about ARC Pro, which will be quite a bit more expensive. Gotta always tame hype with reality.Hope the 24GB VRAM card isn't more than $350.
This time the only blame on Intel is they didn't made enough probably due to bean countingSold out immediately at a price gouged $300
I am conflicted; I'm stoked gamers are all in on Intel this generation. But it's why we can't have nice things. The pandemic trained too many gamers to accept gouging and scalping when products are in high demand. Until gamers reject these practices they will continue.
Not Intel's fault at all. Nor their board partners. It's our fault for paying more than MSRP.This time the only blame on Intel is they didn't made enough
This is more of a Human Mentality ( paying more for things you want ).Not Intel's fault at all. Nor their board partners. It's our fault for paying more than MSRP.
Not Intel's fault at all. Nor their board partners. It's our fault for paying more than MSRP.
Good point. I should have clarified that my remarks are constrained to the U.S. market. Here, there are alternatives that are close to $300 without any of the pitfalls like needing rebar, high CPU overhead, losing 10%+ performance in some games, using PCIe 3.0 mode. There are 7600XTs for $10-$15 more depending on if you want a 2 or 3 fan. There is a 6750XT for $35 more. $250 is where it shines, with a $50 price hike it loses much of its luster.You can't really blame someone for spending $300 on a B580 if $300 is how much they can spend and the B580 is the best graphics card they can buy for that price.
If people are buying it for productivity as well than it's fine as well Davinci and adobe works wonder with this card.Good point. I should have clarified that my remarks are constrained to the U.S. market. Here, there are alternatives that are close to $300 without any of the pitfalls like needing rebar, high CPU overhead, losing 10%+ performance in some games, using PCIe 3.0 mode. There are 7600XTs for $10-$15 more depending on if you want a 2 or 3 fan. There is a 6750XT for $35 more. $250 is where it shines, with a $50 price hike it loses much of its luster.