More like "enterprise, not desktop". I'll be floored if anyone prioritizes CCIX on the desktop, but hey, you never know. Maybe Threadripper?
That is an issue, albeit not so much for an onboard iGPU as you indicated.
That's decidedly next-gen not current gen
And besides, while possible, routing every single memory request through PCIe bus adds significant latency.
Yeah, to my admittedly amateur understanding there simply isn’t a market for it because the basic users don’t want to pay the extra for mid range performance and the upper end doesn’t want 1050 built in performance.
I suspect cooling is also a huge challenge because isn’t that area on the board real close to the cpu?
Right now there would be a market though given it's near impossible to buy GPUs. But yeah I guess the way it works now is the motherboard just has a port and no extra chips so the cost is low vs if they actually built the whole gpu in. But yeah I think it's just reality that now and the next couple years until they build more fabs is just not a good time to do any upgrades anyway.
He also can't rule out the possibility that Intel would have decided to move DG2 to N7P for...reasons.According to Moore's Law Is Dead DG2 is coming in Q1 2022, although he cannot rule out a limited Q4 launch (and possibly mobile only).
But why? Have a look to Ampere, it was unclear for a very long time and close to launch on which process it will be based on. I believe the first right leak came out in July when Ampere launched only 2.5 months later in September. Most if not all other specs were known at this point.
But why? Have a look to Ampere, it was unclear for a very long time and close to launch on which process it will be based on. I believe the first right leak came out in July when Ampere launched only 2.5 months later in September. Most if not all other specs were known at this point.
MLID is not Kopite7Kimi.
Kimi drops the occasional accurate Tweet. MLID is a blowhard with an inaccurate clickbait YT channel... I thought I read he gave on this, after people started calling him on his repeated inaccurate guesses...
Yes, except there's a big difference between Intel and Nvidia. Nvidia went from initial tape-out to product on shelves in record times. There was no A1 silicon. DG2 however... Well lets just say it's extremely late and actually should have already launched by Intel's initial timeline provided to OEMs.
Yes, except there's a big difference between Intel and Nvidia. Nvidia went from initial tape-out to product on shelves in record times. There was no A1 silicon. DG2 however... Well lets just say it's extremely late and actually should have already launched by Intel's initial timeline provided to OEMs.
You missed the point. The point is it was unclear 3 months before launch on what process it's based on. It wasn't even clear if it's TSMC or Samsung. And here we have uzzi38 disregard everything from MLID just because he can't 100% confirm yet if it's really N6 (as rumored for a longer time) or N7P from TSMC.
Doesn't matter really, Xe is not bound to a specific process and obviously it's in ES state, manufacturing hasn't yet started. It makes no sense what you are saying.
It is yes. And current timelines are now 2022 for DG2. They weren't originally.I was under the impression that the N6 order from TSMC was for Q4 delivery.
What doesn't make sense?
He also can't rule out the possibility that Intel would have decided to move DG2 to N7P for...reasons.
Disregard any sort of opinions from him.
You missed the point. The point is it was unclear 3 months before launch on what process it's based on. It wasn't even clear if it's TSMC or Samsung. And here we have uzzi38 disregard everything from MLID just because he can't 100% confirm yet if it's really N6 (as rumored for a longer time) or N7P from TSMC.
@Gideon
To be fair, MLID's leaks on Intel were more accurate than the rest. He was the first one to reveal the Cypress Cove codename for Rocketlake's core right? Same with Redwood Cove, though we'll see on that one.
There's nothing very off in MLIDs recent Xe leaks versus what's actually out there.
We can't outright dismiss everything he says because some of his sources might be correct, but some are feeding him misleading information. The problem is companies are absolutely refusing to reveal anything juicy but the desire of people to know what's happening in the future still has to be satiated.
If you want 100% accurate leaks you won't get that. You'll only get it if the company decides to tell you.
Not being able to dismiss everything he says is meaningless. A stopped clock is correct twice/day, so in theory you can't always dismiss it, but it's still 100% useless for telling time.
Estimates put it around 380-400 mm^2. Similar size to the RTX 3070 despite being on a smaller node (8nm SS vs 6nm TSMC). Rumours point to 3070-3070Ti perf for top model which isn’t too bad, if priced right it could be a great product for 1st gen.