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Update - 4-Jan-2014:
Anandtech has a review of the Haswell NUC up: (thanks Medikit!)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7566/intels-haswell-nuc-d54250wyk-ucff-pc-review
I'll post my review of the Gigabyte & Intel Haswell NUCs next week, had a truckload of models come in!
Update - 10-Dec-2013:
Intel Haswell NUC's now available: (i3, i5)
i3 for $299
i5 for $439 (inflated prices right now)
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Update - 17-Oct-2013:
Haswell NUCs from Gigabyte (BRIX) are now available: (Celeron, i3, i5, i7) * Watch out for barebones vs. bundle deals!
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=47&ck=104
Note that the Celeron has HD graphics and the rest have HD4400 graphics. Only the Haswel Intel NUC i5 model has HD5000 graphics. Also, both the i3 and i5 Intel models have IR receivers (useful for HTPC applications). Intel's new 802.11ac model only has native support for Windows 8, although people have gotten it working in Windows 7 unofficially with other drivers.
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Update for July 2013: i5 NUC out, Gigabyte BRIX out now (i3, i5, i7 with USB 3.0)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35251135&postcount=158
Also a quick review: these have been working out well for me at work. I use them for everything from server/network watchdogs to desktop replacements to digital signage drivers with LED televisions. The VESA mount works great both in small offices and for use with TV displays. My only complaints are really (1) the Intel version is extremely scratchable on top (the glossy black top piece), (2) no 3.5mm headphone jack, so if users want audio I either get them an HDMI monitor with speakers built-in, or eat up one of their limited USB ports with a $9 Syba USB sound card, and (3) they do tend to get pretty warm, borderline hot. No noise issues at all tho, and none have ever overheated, even when used on hot, humid shop floors - very impressive reliability record so far. Users love them - tiny, quiet, super fast with the SATA3 micro SSD.
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Updated pricing for June 2013:
Celeron: $165 shipped
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Next-Com...dp/B00B7I8HZ4/
Dual HDMI: $273 shipped
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Computin...dp/B0093LINVK/
Thunderbolt: $299 shipped
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=REG&A=details
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If you're not familiar with the Intel NUC, it's basically a micro-PC (4" x 4" footprint & only 2" tall - so small it'll make you smile!). Originally designed for kiosks, but powerful enough for basic desktop use. Very very cool for a lot of applications - only uses about 20 watts (1/3 of a lightbulb!) in normal operation, and hardly makes any noise (has a single maglev fan inside). Awesome for a family computer, corporate PC, media center box, basic home server, etc. (it passed my acid test of playing a 1080p Youtube video fullscreen without choking, haha). Fully-loaded (minus software), a complete box runs about $650 shipped (Intel NUC, power cable, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD, Wifi card) - just add a monitor, keyboard, and mouse!
Here's a photo of mine with a USB stick on top: (TINY!)
http://i.imgur.com/GFFTq.jpg
Dual HDMI model: (DC3217IYE) $299.99 shipped:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856102002
HDMI + Thunderbolt model: (DC3217BY) $329.99 shipped: (no onboard Ethernet! just a Wifi slot)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856102001
Specs:
Dual-core 1.8hz Intel i3 CPU (22nm 3217U model) * Hyperthreaded, so you get "4" cores"
Intel HD4000 integrated graphics
Dual HDMI (or HDMI + Thunderbolt, but no onboard Ethernet)
Intel QS77 chipset
(DIY) Max 16gb RAM (2 x DDR3-SODIMM 1333/1600 slots)
(DIY) mSATA SATA-III SSD (currently up to 240gb)
(DIY) Half-height Mini-PCIe Wifi
(3) USB 2.0 ports (one on the front for easy USB stick access)
Gigabit Ethernet
VESA bracket (for mounting behind a monitor or TV)
Note that the Thunderbolt model does not have onboard Ethernet. You can install a half-height mini-PCIe Wifi card internally, or else go with a USB to Ethernet adapter ($7) or a Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet adapter ($29, Windows drivers notes here).
Supported Operating Systems: (per their support site - search for "DC3217IYE" [dual HDMI version] or "DC3217BY" [Thunderbolt version])
Windows XP (32-bit Home, 32-bit Pro, 64-bit, Media Center) * Remember the 4gb RAM limit for 32-bit operating systems
Vista (32 & 64)
Windows 7 (32 & 64)
Windows 8 (32 & 64)
(unofficially) OS X Mountain Lion (link)
Official product page:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...rboards/next-unit-computing-introduction.html
Reviews:
Anandtech
Legit Reviews
TweakTown
Hot Hardware
PC World Australia
IT Pro UK
Tech Report
VR-Zone
What you need:
1. Power cable: This unit is sold worldwide, so they include a 19V 65w power brick, but not the country-specific cable (3-prong C5 to whatever outlet you have). The US 3-prong cable is available for a mere three bucks shipped on Amazon. A little annoying that they don't just include the power cable, but I understand why. Fortunately it's a cheap cable to pick up...
2. Memory: This takes laptop memory, up to two 8GB sticks of DDR3-1600 SO-DIMMs, for a total of 16 gigs. You can get a 16-gig kit for as low as $60 on Newegg. G.Skill (my favorite brand of memory) has a 16gb kit for $65 shipped.
3. mSATA SSD: These are the same slim SSD's used in ultrabooks. There are 22 models currently available on Newegg, in sizes between 30gb and 240gb. My brand preference is Mushkin (very reliable in my experience). I picked up this 240gb model for $209, although they do have a faster one for $40 more. My initial testing yielded 416 MB/s read, 438 MB/s write. Ridiculous. If you need larger, Mushkin will have a 480gb model for $499 available next month. There are all kinds of adapters available as well, such as a USB mSATA case for $35 (useful for ghosting images to your new SSD) and an mSATA to SATA adapter for $30 (for case mods - use a larger 2.5" SSD or a 3.5" hard drive, although you'd need the $12 power brick on that link for larger, higher-power hard drives).
4. Wifi: Underneath the mSATA port (which is just a Mini-PCIe port) is a half-height Mini-PCIe port for a Wifi card. The Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 is the popular model - 802.11n plus Bluetooth for $22. However, there seems to be a known issue with this card in the Thunderbolt model, at least. I chose to go with a Dell DW1515 802.11n card ($16 on Amazon, no Bluetooth) because it is based on the Atheros AR5BHB92, which is natively Hackintosh-compatible.
5. Tools: This machine is REALLY easy to work on. It has 4 screws on the bottom (bottom plate exposes the motherboard, #2 Philips I believe) and 1 screw for the mSATA drive (#1 Philips I think). There are also 2 screws to remove the motherboard if you want to see the fan & battery, but for normal installation you won't be doing that unless you are case-modding (if you want a cool Hackintosh case, check this puppy out!).
6. DVD Drive: You can optionally get a USB CD/DVD/Bluray drive. I got a USB DVD burner for $29. However, you can install Windows 7 via USB stick (as well as Windows 8 using the same tool from Microsoft). Windows 8 Pro is available as a $39 ISO download directly from Microsoft.
7. BIOS Update: The BIOS is super awesome (UEFI-based Intel Visual BIOS...mouse support, nice GUI, easy setup). The latest version is GKPPT10H.86A (available off their support site) and can be loaded from a FAT32-formatted USB stick. Takes a little while to fully process, so don't get worried if it takes 5 or 10 minutes - I thought mine had frozen up during the BIOS upgrade, but it just takes a bit of time.
8. Sound Card: The NUC does digital sound through the HDMI and Thunderbolt ports. If you want just plain stereo, there's a good USB Stereo Adapter for $8 (also Hackintosh-compatible, although HDMI Audio works just fine on the Mac OS as well).
9. Monitor: This can plug directly into an HDMI-equipped LCD monitor or Television. If you want higher resolutions, the Thunderbolt port (which is also a Mini-DisplayPort) can run monitors up to 2560x1600 resolution (such as a Catleap Yamanski, or the $499 Nixeus US-shipped model)
So, it's something of a niche product - no USB 3.0, not much expandability (unless you get the Thunderbolt model + adapters), basic but useful CPU, etc. However, I can see this being huge (well, not size-wise...lol) for so many people and companies due to the low power, small size, and relatively fast peformance (SATA-III SSD + 16GB RAM + "quad" i3 CPU). There may be an i5 version on the horizon as well. I believe the max TDP on these bad boys is like 30 or 32w, but normal operation is about 20 watts, so you're saving a lot of cash in electricity over your standard 350w+ desktop station. Really really cool. I'll be tinkering with mine over the holidays and will report back with anything cool I find. Windows 7 installed without a hitch, grabbed the latest BIOS & drivers, and did some testing - boots up fast, plays 1008p Youtube, I'm happy so far!
Anandtech has a review of the Haswell NUC up: (thanks Medikit!)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7566/intels-haswell-nuc-d54250wyk-ucff-pc-review
I'll post my review of the Gigabyte & Intel Haswell NUCs next week, had a truckload of models come in!
Update - 10-Dec-2013:
Intel Haswell NUC's now available: (i3, i5)
i3 for $299
i5 for $439 (inflated prices right now)
*****************************************************************
Update - 17-Oct-2013:
Haswell NUCs from Gigabyte (BRIX) are now available: (Celeron, i3, i5, i7) * Watch out for barebones vs. bundle deals!
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=47&ck=104
Note that the Celeron has HD graphics and the rest have HD4400 graphics. Only the Haswel Intel NUC i5 model has HD5000 graphics. Also, both the i3 and i5 Intel models have IR receivers (useful for HTPC applications). Intel's new 802.11ac model only has native support for Windows 8, although people have gotten it working in Windows 7 unofficially with other drivers.
*****************************************************************
Update for July 2013: i5 NUC out, Gigabyte BRIX out now (i3, i5, i7 with USB 3.0)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35251135&postcount=158
Also a quick review: these have been working out well for me at work. I use them for everything from server/network watchdogs to desktop replacements to digital signage drivers with LED televisions. The VESA mount works great both in small offices and for use with TV displays. My only complaints are really (1) the Intel version is extremely scratchable on top (the glossy black top piece), (2) no 3.5mm headphone jack, so if users want audio I either get them an HDMI monitor with speakers built-in, or eat up one of their limited USB ports with a $9 Syba USB sound card, and (3) they do tend to get pretty warm, borderline hot. No noise issues at all tho, and none have ever overheated, even when used on hot, humid shop floors - very impressive reliability record so far. Users love them - tiny, quiet, super fast with the SATA3 micro SSD.
*****************************************************************
Updated pricing for June 2013:
Celeron: $165 shipped
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Next-Com...dp/B00B7I8HZ4/
Dual HDMI: $273 shipped
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Computin...dp/B0093LINVK/
Thunderbolt: $299 shipped
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=REG&A=details
***********
If you're not familiar with the Intel NUC, it's basically a micro-PC (4" x 4" footprint & only 2" tall - so small it'll make you smile!). Originally designed for kiosks, but powerful enough for basic desktop use. Very very cool for a lot of applications - only uses about 20 watts (1/3 of a lightbulb!) in normal operation, and hardly makes any noise (has a single maglev fan inside). Awesome for a family computer, corporate PC, media center box, basic home server, etc. (it passed my acid test of playing a 1080p Youtube video fullscreen without choking, haha). Fully-loaded (minus software), a complete box runs about $650 shipped (Intel NUC, power cable, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD, Wifi card) - just add a monitor, keyboard, and mouse!
Here's a photo of mine with a USB stick on top: (TINY!)
http://i.imgur.com/GFFTq.jpg
Dual HDMI model: (DC3217IYE) $299.99 shipped:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856102002
HDMI + Thunderbolt model: (DC3217BY) $329.99 shipped: (no onboard Ethernet! just a Wifi slot)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856102001
Specs:
Dual-core 1.8hz Intel i3 CPU (22nm 3217U model) * Hyperthreaded, so you get "4" cores"
Intel HD4000 integrated graphics
Dual HDMI (or HDMI + Thunderbolt, but no onboard Ethernet)
Intel QS77 chipset
(DIY) Max 16gb RAM (2 x DDR3-SODIMM 1333/1600 slots)
(DIY) mSATA SATA-III SSD (currently up to 240gb)
(DIY) Half-height Mini-PCIe Wifi
(3) USB 2.0 ports (one on the front for easy USB stick access)
Gigabit Ethernet
VESA bracket (for mounting behind a monitor or TV)
Note that the Thunderbolt model does not have onboard Ethernet. You can install a half-height mini-PCIe Wifi card internally, or else go with a USB to Ethernet adapter ($7) or a Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet adapter ($29, Windows drivers notes here).
Supported Operating Systems: (per their support site - search for "DC3217IYE" [dual HDMI version] or "DC3217BY" [Thunderbolt version])
Windows XP (32-bit Home, 32-bit Pro, 64-bit, Media Center) * Remember the 4gb RAM limit for 32-bit operating systems
Vista (32 & 64)
Windows 7 (32 & 64)
Windows 8 (32 & 64)
(unofficially) OS X Mountain Lion (link)
Official product page:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...rboards/next-unit-computing-introduction.html
Reviews:
Anandtech
Legit Reviews
TweakTown
Hot Hardware
PC World Australia
IT Pro UK
Tech Report
VR-Zone
What you need:
1. Power cable: This unit is sold worldwide, so they include a 19V 65w power brick, but not the country-specific cable (3-prong C5 to whatever outlet you have). The US 3-prong cable is available for a mere three bucks shipped on Amazon. A little annoying that they don't just include the power cable, but I understand why. Fortunately it's a cheap cable to pick up...
2. Memory: This takes laptop memory, up to two 8GB sticks of DDR3-1600 SO-DIMMs, for a total of 16 gigs. You can get a 16-gig kit for as low as $60 on Newegg. G.Skill (my favorite brand of memory) has a 16gb kit for $65 shipped.
3. mSATA SSD: These are the same slim SSD's used in ultrabooks. There are 22 models currently available on Newegg, in sizes between 30gb and 240gb. My brand preference is Mushkin (very reliable in my experience). I picked up this 240gb model for $209, although they do have a faster one for $40 more. My initial testing yielded 416 MB/s read, 438 MB/s write. Ridiculous. If you need larger, Mushkin will have a 480gb model for $499 available next month. There are all kinds of adapters available as well, such as a USB mSATA case for $35 (useful for ghosting images to your new SSD) and an mSATA to SATA adapter for $30 (for case mods - use a larger 2.5" SSD or a 3.5" hard drive, although you'd need the $12 power brick on that link for larger, higher-power hard drives).
4. Wifi: Underneath the mSATA port (which is just a Mini-PCIe port) is a half-height Mini-PCIe port for a Wifi card. The Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 is the popular model - 802.11n plus Bluetooth for $22. However, there seems to be a known issue with this card in the Thunderbolt model, at least. I chose to go with a Dell DW1515 802.11n card ($16 on Amazon, no Bluetooth) because it is based on the Atheros AR5BHB92, which is natively Hackintosh-compatible.
5. Tools: This machine is REALLY easy to work on. It has 4 screws on the bottom (bottom plate exposes the motherboard, #2 Philips I believe) and 1 screw for the mSATA drive (#1 Philips I think). There are also 2 screws to remove the motherboard if you want to see the fan & battery, but for normal installation you won't be doing that unless you are case-modding (if you want a cool Hackintosh case, check this puppy out!).
6. DVD Drive: You can optionally get a USB CD/DVD/Bluray drive. I got a USB DVD burner for $29. However, you can install Windows 7 via USB stick (as well as Windows 8 using the same tool from Microsoft). Windows 8 Pro is available as a $39 ISO download directly from Microsoft.
7. BIOS Update: The BIOS is super awesome (UEFI-based Intel Visual BIOS...mouse support, nice GUI, easy setup). The latest version is GKPPT10H.86A (available off their support site) and can be loaded from a FAT32-formatted USB stick. Takes a little while to fully process, so don't get worried if it takes 5 or 10 minutes - I thought mine had frozen up during the BIOS upgrade, but it just takes a bit of time.
8. Sound Card: The NUC does digital sound through the HDMI and Thunderbolt ports. If you want just plain stereo, there's a good USB Stereo Adapter for $8 (also Hackintosh-compatible, although HDMI Audio works just fine on the Mac OS as well).
9. Monitor: This can plug directly into an HDMI-equipped LCD monitor or Television. If you want higher resolutions, the Thunderbolt port (which is also a Mini-DisplayPort) can run monitors up to 2560x1600 resolution (such as a Catleap Yamanski, or the $499 Nixeus US-shipped model)
So, it's something of a niche product - no USB 3.0, not much expandability (unless you get the Thunderbolt model + adapters), basic but useful CPU, etc. However, I can see this being huge (well, not size-wise...lol) for so many people and companies due to the low power, small size, and relatively fast peformance (SATA-III SSD + 16GB RAM + "quad" i3 CPU). There may be an i5 version on the horizon as well. I believe the max TDP on these bad boys is like 30 or 32w, but normal operation is about 20 watts, so you're saving a lot of cash in electricity over your standard 350w+ desktop station. Really really cool. I'll be tinkering with mine over the holidays and will report back with anything cool I find. Windows 7 installed without a hitch, grabbed the latest BIOS & drivers, and did some testing - boots up fast, plays 1008p Youtube, I'm happy so far!
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