Intel NUC 4" x 4" micro-PC - $299 shipped (1.8ghz i3, motherboard, case, PSU)

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Kaido

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We're getting closer. What SSD, RAM and WiFi is everyone planning on using?

Intel has their new Dual-Band 802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.0 chip for like $30, no reason to get anything else!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833106190

Last I checked, the 120 & 240 SSD's in general were still faster than the 480's due to chip arrangement etc., so I'd lean toward a 240gb. I like Mushkin the most still, great performance + good price. I have a 480gb in my drawer at work for the next NUC that comes in, so I'll give that puppy a speed test & see how it fares.

As far as RAM goes, gotta go with DDR3L (low-voltage) on the new ones.
 

Kaido

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Gigabyte's Haswell BRIX page is up:

http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/342/haswell.html

4 models:

1) 1.4ghz Celeron 2955U (Intel HD graphics) p/n GB-BXCE-2955
2) 1.7ghz i3-4010U (Intel HD 4400 graphics) p/n GB-BXi3-4010
3) 1.6ghz i5-4200U (Intel HD 4400 graphics) p/n GB-BXi5-4200
4) 1.8ghz i7-4500U (Intel HD 4400 graphics) p/n GB-BXi7-4500

Differences from Intel model:

1) All come standard with an 802.11n + Bluetooth 4.0 card (if you nee 802.11ac you will need to purchase a card separately)
2) No Infrared receiver port
3) HD or HD 4400 graphics (Intel version has HD5000)

Note: The HD4400 supports 4K resolution (Seiki woot woot!)

Still kinda lame there's not an audio jack on the back for analog computer speakers, but at least you don't kill a USB port with a sound adapter, plus they give you 4x USB 3.0 ports (2 front, 2 rear). All come with HDMI + Mini-Displayport as well for dual monitors. The front headphone jack also doubles as a SPDIF jack, so if you want to route audio to say a receiver and then video straight into a TV you can do that (useful for projectors).
 
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Pheran

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Gigabyte's Haswell BRIX page is up:
Differences from Intel model:

1) All come standard with an 802.11n + Bluetooth 4.0 card (if you nee 802.11ac you will need to purchase a card separately)
2) No Infrared receiver port
3) HD or HD 4400 graphics (Intel version has HD5000)
4) HD4400 supports 4K resolution (Seiki woot woot!)

Why are you listing 4K support as a difference from the Intel model? The HD5000 supports 4K.
 

Kaido

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856164007

Think I'll wait for intel though if its between HD4400 and HD5000. Especially since the pricing is basically a wash.

Dang, beat me to it, was just going to post that Newegg & Amazon are selling the BRIX HD4400 models.

I'll try to pick up both an HD4400 from Gigabyte and an HD5000 from Intel to compare. The HD5000 is supposed to be pretty awesome, so I'd rather hold out for that...
 

Kaido

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Why are you listing 4K support as a difference from the Intel model? The HD5000 supports 4K.

Whoops, forgot to edit that, thanks! I put it in as placeholder while typing that post because I couldn't find data related to the Intel HD graphics on the Celeron Haswell as to whether it supported 4K or not. I'm assuming it's not the same HD graphics as before, but it may be because the name is the same. Dunno.
 

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I'm trying to decide if I should go for Windows or Linux on my Nuc. Anyone have a recommendation for a good living room linux derivative? I plan on trying Steam OS when it comes out.
 

Kaido

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Pheran

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Do you have a recommendation for a good Linux-compatible physical remote control?

Well I haven't actually built an HTPC yet so I can't tell you what is compatible, but I already use a Harmony One for my home theater system so I'm hoping it's going to work.
 

Kaido

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Downside: No official Intel W7 drivers for that card. Rumor has it Sager has some OEM drivers that work with it in Win7.

Post #138 has a link:

https://communities.intel.com/message/202708

Proset 16.1.1: (unlisted but multiple confirmed supported for 16.1.1.3)

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De... (64-bit)*&DownloadType=Software Applications

Sager ones look pretty flakey:

Hrm. With the Sager drivers, I had a lot of trouble with 5ghz, lots of variability in packet RTT, and packet loss. At 2.4ghz it was better, but still not very reliable. It'd disconnect a lot, and the connection would just stop transferring packets until I did a disconnect/reconnect.

The Intel 16.1.5 drivers are also out, but I haven't read a yay/nay on those yet:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De...0&DownloadType=Software+Applications&lang=eng
 

The0ne

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Thanks. Hoping to get my own place soon and try these little things for movies on a 70"+ screen
 

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Why the heck is there no quad core version still?!

The Brix is bigger and it's worse in every way?!
What the heck is going on?

I just saw an Asus 14" i7-36xx QM laptop for 470$.
I don't need a screen or battery, just give me the hardware for a fair price!
In fact I would pay the entire 470$ trading the screen and battery for the small NUC like size. I know the hardware doesn't take up much room.
 

finbarqs

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Maybe I don't need to wait for intel... All I'm doing is making it a low powered 1080p plex server... GPU doesn't matter to me, just the power savings that can be 24/7 transcoding plex...

So the 5000 would be wasted, by these still run less than a light bulb right? GPU doesn't take transcoding into effect?
 

Kaido

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Maybe I don't need to wait for intel... All I'm doing is making it a low powered 1080p plex server... GPU doesn't matter to me, just the power savings that can be 24/7 transcoding plex...

So the 5000 would be wasted, by these still run less than a light bulb right? GPU doesn't take transcoding into effect?

Right, Plex transcoding is CPU-based. Minimum 2.4ghz C2D for single stream of 1080p:

http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/F...ode_the_type_of_media_that_I_want_to_watch.3F
 

Kaido

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Why the heck is there no quad core version still?!

The Brix is bigger and it's worse in every way?!
What the heck is going on?

I just saw an Asus 14" i7-36xx QM laptop for 470$.
I don't need a screen or battery, just give me the hardware for a fair price!
In fact I would pay the entire 470$ trading the screen and battery for the small NUC like size. I know the hardware doesn't take up much room.

They switched to Ultrabook processors, so not only are we not getting quad-core, but we now have to use low-voltage (1.35v or less) RAM in the new Haswell NUC's. It's not hard to find, but I question why a desktop that uses 30w max with a 65w power adapter can't use regular memory? But at least they're including the A/C cord with the new ones

I'd say if you need the quad, just get a small laptop, disable sleep mode when the lid is shut, and use that as a flat desktop computer. I'd love to see a NUC with four cores, but I'd also love to see a NUC with a rear analog audio jack. Next generation maybe?

The biggest problem, imo, is that the NUC is expensive. Yes, it's cheap, but no, not really. $299 plus mSATA SSD (zero internal HDD option presently) plus the more expensive laptop-sized RAM, plus a wireless card, then add in your own OS & whatnot instead of getting it for a bundle price like you do with a laptop. My typical build at work is $1600 with a 240gb SSD (not even the 480!), Windows 7, Office, Adobe, and a pair of monitors. That's more than I would spend on a Dell by far, but I'm also getting an SSD out of the box, a tiny footprint, built-in dual monitor support, ultra-low maintenance, and greatly reduced electrical requirements. Combined with the newer LED monitors, you can get some serious power savings going on!

But yeah, it's pricey to have the niceness, and the cost adds up to the point where it's hard to justify it over a laptop. At work I prefer desktops over virtual desktops & thin clients, so being able to throw in a NUC in place of a Wyse is awesome. It also makes maintenance easier because it takes like 2 minutes to fully assembly a NUC vs. having to swap parts on a full-sized desktop tower, and I can zap a master image via a USB reader pretty fast and not even need to bother with PXE, so rollout is easy. I can typically have someone up in about an hour from receiving a NUC, building it, cloning the master image, setting up the local accounts & email & software, and swapping it onto their desk. Boom.
 

finbarqs

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so the NUC and the Brix use the same power draw... but Brix will come out with an i7 variant... maybe I should wait on that? or i5 is enough? at max, i'll probably have 4 1080p streams... over a 65mbit upload (thanks FIOS)
 
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