Thank you my brave brothers for standing up and defending the great name of Intel! Intel is a staple of computer perfection that lasts. That is poised to one day smite this pretentious beast known as AMD once and for all.
Originally posted by: Skriptures17
Thank you my brave brothers for standing up and defending the great name of Intel! Intel is a staple of computer perfection that lasts. That is poised to one day smite this pretentious beast known as AMD once and for all.
Originally posted by: Socrilles
Yah your system is really available nationwide to everybody.....and I'm sure you only paid $500 USD for it new, oh wait and of course this system you haven't posted the specs for (unless its in your sig which would make you a complete idiot for selling it at that price) would surely dominate mine and thats why your posting the specs -- yah you sure got me
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: imanub
So your saying that AMD is not good for programming, image editing, office applications, and the internet?Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Definately Intel if you want a CPU you wont be chaning every six weeks because its not the "latest thing". Its durable and will be worth the investment.
Im saying why bother with advanced micro devices to begin with, when you can have it all with even just an iNTEL Celeron D, featuring NetBurst architecture. :beer:
Originally posted by: Skriptures17
Thank you my brave brothers for standing up and defending the great name of Intel! Intel is a staple of computer perfection that lasts. That is poised to one day smite this pretentious beast known as AMD once and for all.
Originally posted by: Skriptures17
Thank you my brave brothers for standing up and defending the great name of Intel! Intel is a staple of computer perfection that lasts. That is poised to one day smite this pretentious beast known as AMD once and for all.
Originally posted by: Markfw900
saying things like "computer perfection" which is total crap, makes you a troll. Not to mention the "pretentious AMD" remark.
Intel cost more, suck more power, run WAY hooter and don;t perform as well by every benchmark on the net. Thats NOT perfection, or even close. And maybe some AMD fanboys are pretentious, but AMD sure isn't, and right now they are king, even by Tomshardware !
And my 820D runs rediculously hot, and is outclassed in performance by as much as 50% by my 3800+, so I know what I speak of from personal experience.
You are the one that needs to grow up Skriptures17 .
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: imanub
So your saying that AMD is not good for programming, image editing, office applications, and the internet?Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Definately Intel if you want a CPU you wont be chaning every six weeks because its not the "latest thing". Its durable and will be worth the investment.
Im saying why bother with advanced micro devices to begin with, when you can have it all with even just an iNTEL Celeron D, featuring NetBurst architecture. :beer:
Dam I wanted to get the x2 4400. But what your saying is scaring me lol. How about a Operton 175? Isn't that like a x2 4400?Originally posted by: stability99
This is so greatly awful. Most of web sites and forums, they always suggest you a best system for now is going to AMD site for best cooling, best OC, and best performance and no hassle Heat problem, not much money from your pocket. So that's why I was leaning to AMD and now I have it. There's something wrong that people don't give you any ideas about Nvidia problems, even I see many threads before, but I convinced me to buy AMD because of best ratio of performance and money, besides they don't include TPM, DRM in hardware like in your new intel chipset i945 and i955.
Please people watch back a little. Over and over, we see many problems from AMD, not from Intel. Can you please calculate how many threads concerning about Nforce problems in AMD sites, Anandtech sites, Asus VIP site,v.v... always we see AMD system problems. We understand that, but Marketing hype is always something that is very strong, they cover us very good, their charts always show AMD leading in everything. But the fact is NOT TRUE.
As you see, first update from Intel site, I buy X2 3800... Oh man, it runs too slow in game, sometimes it runs slower than Intel Presty. Then I buy the new x2 4200. Surely it runs faster, but not all of applications that you put in it. One thing I accepted that it runs game smoother, but not magically, like I test, with 2 GB Corsair 3500 Pro, GF 7800 GTX, I need to OC my proc to 2.6 to run Age of Empire 3 with all of options turn on in 1280 x 1024 mode. Something I want to say more, people like to yell out abuses that AMD always win with their OVERLOCKING performance. Not right man, when compare something, we need to count on Normal clock, not OC.
In AMD site, one thing I want to add, you buy your Nforce4 motherboard, but you cannot run 4 sticks with DDR400, it auto slower to 333 MHz, but your manual don't say it. Data corruption, some have it, and some don't have, but you cannot refuse the fact that is exist Nforce4 problem. For example, I am trying to use another NIC (3 COM) and Dlick wireless NIC, I still have a data corruption. So don't say: you don't know to install NIC and don't use Nvidia NIC.
Plus, I move from A8N-SLI Premium to A8N32-SLI to hope this new platform don't have this problems because I convinced me 1 more time based on 8 Phase Very Stable Board. Arrggg, A8N32-SLI deluxe still have problems with 4 sticks of RAM compatibility, even with 2 slots, you still have it, but rarely.
I don't concern more other problems like drivers,....But I'm very dissapointed.
Summary: AMD X2 still be a good processor, maybe better in general, but the problem is that we don't have the best motherboard outthere.
Originally posted by: imanub
Dam I wanted to get the x2 4400. But what your saying is scaring me lol. How about a Operton 175? Isn't that like a x2 4400?Originally posted by: stability99
This is so greatly awful. Most of web sites and forums, they always suggest you a best system for now is going to AMD site for best cooling, best OC, and best performance and no hassle Heat problem, not much money from your pocket. So that's why I was leaning to AMD and now I have it. There's something wrong that people don't give you any ideas about Nvidia problems, even I see many threads before, but I convinced me to buy AMD because of best ratio of performance and money, besides they don't include TPM, DRM in hardware like in your new intel chipset i945 and i955.
Please people watch back a little. Over and over, we see many problems from AMD, not from Intel. Can you please calculate how many threads concerning about Nforce problems in AMD sites, Anandtech sites, Asus VIP site,v.v... always we see AMD system problems. We understand that, but Marketing hype is always something that is very strong, they cover us very good, their charts always show AMD leading in everything. But the fact is NOT TRUE.
As you see, first update from Intel site, I buy X2 3800... Oh man, it runs too slow in game, sometimes it runs slower than Intel Presty. Then I buy the new x2 4200. Surely it runs faster, but not all of applications that you put in it. One thing I accepted that it runs game smoother, but not magically, like I test, with 2 GB Corsair 3500 Pro, GF 7800 GTX, I need to OC my proc to 2.6 to run Age of Empire 3 with all of options turn on in 1280 x 1024 mode. Something I want to say more, people like to yell out abuses that AMD always win with their OVERLOCKING performance. Not right man, when compare something, we need to count on Normal clock, not OC.
In AMD site, one thing I want to add, you buy your Nforce4 motherboard, but you cannot run 4 sticks with DDR400, it auto slower to 333 MHz, but your manual don't say it. Data corruption, some have it, and some don't have, but you cannot refuse the fact that is exist Nforce4 problem. For example, I am trying to use another NIC (3 COM) and Dlick wireless NIC, I still have a data corruption. So don't say: you don't know to install NIC and don't use Nvidia NIC.
Plus, I move from A8N-SLI Premium to A8N32-SLI to hope this new platform don't have this problems because I convinced me 1 more time based on 8 Phase Very Stable Board. Arrggg, A8N32-SLI deluxe still have problems with 4 sticks of RAM compatibility, even with 2 slots, you still have it, but rarely.
I don't concern more other problems like drivers,....But I'm very dissapointed.
Summary: AMD X2 still be a good processor, maybe better in general, but the problem is that we don't have the best motherboard outthere.
Please people watch back a little. Over and over, we see many problems from AMD, not from Intel.
typically games will be GPU limited, with the games of tomorrow, they will run them either at the same speed as today, or faster due to dual core multi threading optimisations. Two cores is the first real future proofing ive seen. An X2 4400 wont run slow in games unless you pair it with a crap graphics card.
That other guy saying the x2 runs slower than the intel "presty" in games is complete bs.
Originally posted by: stability99
Trying to click on your sig and I don't see what rig you have now. But I really hate someone swears out something is good but he don't have it in hands.
Games GPU limited = WRONG... many sites say that we have CPU Limite now. Besides, I have GF 7800 GTX 256 Mb. What better then?
Do you read clearly before putting any input. I say X2 3800 runs SLOWER than Presty. I don't have time to specific what kind of Presty that I test. It's on Presty 775 chipset 945 Asus, 650 CPU (3.4), 2 Gb OCZ dual, 7800 GTX.
Please don't put any input if you don't have that machine...or just imagine its in your head. Please Do Answer or Help others when you really can DO and have it in Hands.
Originally posted by: stability99
LOL Still laughing at your attack.
OK... I say Age of Empire 3, not FEAR here. Everyone knows what FEAR is, right? Why don't you say about another game like Act of WAR that I bought only 20$. It's CPU limite too....not GPU man.
For me X2 3800 is poor performance compared to 64 3800+... is AMD misleading to wrong decission too
I know what Anandtech rules is, the same is with other forums. But I still hand up with someone who is willing to help with their experiences and their stuffs in hands, not in their imagines.
See ya