Intel or AMD

[t3h l337 n3wb]

You'll regret going single core now. Multithreaded games are just around the corner, so within a year, you'll have to replace your CPU.

 

[Shizzle]

yer i dunno dual core is cheaper than the 4000+ but some say the dual is slower than the 4000+

 

[fire400]

Depends where you're coming from. If you have an Intel LGA755 mobo, you're gonna want an Intel CPU and not an AMD CPU. It's different for some enthusiasts.
But if you're building from scratch with a low budget, I'd go with an AMD Athlon64 939 3000 w/512kb cache and a cheap nforce3.

Otherwise, like how every enjoys mouthwatering for, you can try an Opteron on a Tyan mobo.

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

For the last time, get the Socket 939 Opteron 165 Denmark core...

 

[Shizzle]

Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
For the last time, get the Socket 939 Opteron 165 Denmark core...

ive never seen on of those "Opteron" listing anywhere and im in Australia? help

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Shizzle

Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
For the last time, get the Socket 939 Opteron 165 Denmark core...

ive never seen on of those "Opteron" listing anywhere and im in Australia? help

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/

They're here in Sydney, but there are hundreds more in Oz...send me a message if you need further guidance on retailers in Oz.

 

[Darth Farter]

Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
For the last time, get the Socket 939 Opteron 165 Denmark core...

QTF 100%


plz listen to him.

 

[Shizzle]

the Opterton 165 is only like ****** 1.8 Ghz ? i want sumthin for gaming and internet (downloading) etc

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

The Opteron 165 is basically a 3800+ that's downlclocked 200mhz but with double the cache. After you overclock it, it'll be really fast.

 

[Shizzle]

how do you "overclock" a pc? or it

 

[Markfw]

you increase the vcore to 1.45, then use a divider on your memory, and set the fsb to 250 or so.

 

[Shizzle]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
you increase the vcore to 1.45, then use a divider on your memory, and set the fsb to 250 or so.

that sounds too frickin hard for a noob! isnt it easier to get a dual core 3800+?

 

[GOREGRINDER]

Originally posted by: Shizzle

Originally posted by: Markfw900
you increase the vcore to 1.45, then use a divider on your memory, and set the fsb to 250 or so.

that sounds too frickin hard for a noob! isnt it easier to get a dual core 3800+?

if you get a 3800+ your gonna wanna overclock that too for games,...if you get an opteron 939 yer gonna wanna overclock it for games too,.....thats what it comes down too,..if your not prepared to overclock,...pass to the 4000+

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

If you're not going to overclock, you'll need like a $1000 CPU to get the same performance out of your $300 CPU...

 

[Shizzle]

this overcloking business sucks

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: Shizzle
this overcloking business sucks

You mean because you think something you haven't even attempted is too hard?

Here, buy all means... buy Intel. The Opteron 1xx series is the single socket version and performs slighty better than thier 2xx equivalent.

As for your 'internet.' lol. My computer shuts the CPU speed down to half! when I'm just browsing the interent, because it doesn't take much more than a 1GHz machine to surf. And You get that Opteron 165 clocked to 2.4GHz, which my 9-year old nephew did successful on his own, and there is no current game that will give you insatisfactory performance.

 

[GOREGRINDER]

heres a good indication of where the cpu's stand at stock clocks without overclocking in gaming


athlon 1400 thunderbird-fx-57 and all in between

out of box at stock clocks you cant beat the 4000+ san diego imo(although i do think buying a 200 dollar cpu and uppin the clocks in the end is more worth it,..but its obvious your not into doin that so i say 4000+ )

4000+ San Diego $334.00

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: GOREGRINDER
heres a good indication of where the cpu's stand at stock clocks without overclocking in gaming


athlon 1400 thunderbird-fx-57 and all in between

out of box at stock clocks you cant beat the 4000+ san diego imo(although i do think buying a 200 dollar cpu and uppin the clocks in the end is more worth it,..but its obvious your not into doin that so i say 4000+ )

4000+ San Diego $334.00

It's a pretty chart, but frankly I wouldn't trust THG to tie my shoelaces, let alone trust their benchmarks...no offense to you GG.

 

[GOREGRINDER]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: GOREGRINDER
heres a good indication of where the cpu's stand at stock clocks without overclocking in gaming


athlon 1400 thunderbird-fx-57 and all in between

out of box at stock clocks you cant beat the 4000+ san diego imo(although i do think buying a 200 dollar cpu and uppin the clocks in the end is more worth it,..but its obvious your not into doin that so i say 4000+ )

4000+ San Diego $334.00

It's a pretty chart, but frankly I wouldn't trust THG to tie my shoelaces, let alone trust their benchmarks...no offense to you GG.

no offence taken,.but thnx

i know what you mean about toms,..ive seen them be blantently wrong about gpu benchs,,..(for example thier agp video charts,..they were saying a 6800gt agp got 4300 some points in 3dmark05,..as i was sittin on 4900 some with a far inferior cpu than they were using "supposidly" it was almost like they benched the fastest vid card and guessed on the rest ,.lol),...but if you look at em and look at other sites for comparison with how the dif models stack up they seem pretty much in line,...i just picked that one because it had em all in one link,...instead of posting 8-10 different ones for him to sift through,...i chose the unreal tournament link just because it shows the different levels in cpu's,..instead of like far cry or doom3 which is cpu bound and more graphics dependant so all the cpu's look the same speed

EDIT: i just relooked at toms and now it says the score is 4790 with a 4000+,..either i read it wrong or they changed it,...but either way that seems awefully weak when a 3400+ s754 and a 6800gt pull higher scores than that

 

[Shizzle]

so should i do overclocking you guys reccomen the Opteron 165? and is the Opteron dual core?

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Yes, the Opteron 165 is dual core... And yes, you should overclock...

 

[CraigRT]

Why do you people even bother with this guy? his questions have been answered 99999999 times in this thread already.

Shizzle, do yourself a favour, read over this thread, and just go ahead and buy the 165 like suggested, if you really are taking the advice that is.

 

[Shizzle]

I thank everyone for helping, im confused cauz in ealier threads i made i was suggested the X2 3800+ now different people are saying the opteron 165 etc, its vey confusing and i have 2 pc prices confirmed they are the x2 3800+ and the single core 4000


i have never heard of a "opteron" thats why i am asking questions, btw i work and dont have alot of time to go throught this, so if you have a problem CraigRT then dont post here, i thanks everyone for their help and i am currently looking at the opteron series and would like to know the difference between the X2 3800+ and the opteron

Thank you

 

[ribbon13]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1733490&enterthread=y

 

[Chocolate Pi]

Opterons is AMD's server line, they are made to be stable.

First, you need to understand: GHZ DOES NOT MATTER! You can't compare Intel Ghz to AMD Ghz, that is like comparing the scores of a baseball team and a football team to see who is more athletic.

For games, AMD always wins. Get an Opteron 165 like they said and learn to overclock, it's super-easy. Do you need help with any other parts of your computer? Motherboard, memory, video card?