Intel Q2 Financials- revenue down, profit down, datacenter up

Fjodor2001

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...ates_because_nobody_expected_it_to_earn_much/

"Intel beats earnings estimates (because nobody expected it to earn much)

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Once again, it was the Client Computing group – which recently absorbed the virtually penniless Mobile Computing group – that dragged its feet the most. Sales of PCs, laptops, and tablets were down 13.6 per cent, year on year, to $7.54bn. It was the unit's worst performance in four quarters.

Even worse, Client Computing's margins appear to be growing ever tighter. The unit's total operating income for the quarter was just $1.60bn, which was down a gruesome 38.6 per cent annually.
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In light of that gloomy outlook, Chipzilla has embarked on austerity measures that include trimming back on R&D and – once again – lowering the axe on its workforce.

Its head count for Q2 of 2015 actually was up slightly from the previous sequential quarter, but CEO Brian Krzanich reportedly has a new wave of job cuts planned, mostly from Intel's facilities in Oregon, where the chipmaker is the state's largest private employer."
 
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...ates_because_nobody_expected_it_to_earn_much/

"Intel beats earnings estimates (because nobody expected it to earn much)

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Once again, it was the Client Computing group – which recently absorbed the virtually penniless Mobile Computing group – that dragged its feet the most. Sales of PCs, laptops, and tablets were down 13.6 per cent, year on year, to $7.54bn. It was the unit's worst performance in four quarters.

Even worse, Client Computing's margins appear to be growing ever tighter. The unit's total operating income for the quarter was just $1.60bn, which was down a gruesome 38.6 per cent annually.
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In light of that gloomy outlook, Chipzilla has embarked on austerity measures that include trimming back on R&D and – once again – lowering the axe on its workforce.

Its head count for Q2 of 2015 actually was up slightly from the previous sequential quarter, but CEO Brian Krzanich reportedly has a new wave of job cuts planned, mostly from Intel's facilities in Oregon, where the chipmaker is the state's largest private employer."

Here's the other side of the coin.

Intel (NASDAQ:INTC)reported results for the second quarter of 2015 after the market close today, and the tech titan's revenue and earnings exceeded Wall Street's expectations. Investors cheered the news, and as of 5:30 p.m., shares were up 3% in after-hours trading.

Intel's revenue declined 5% year over year to $13.2 billion, matching the company's own guidance and exceeding analysts' estimates of $13.0 billion. Gross margin fell two percentage points to 62.5% -- which was slightly higher than the 62% Intel forecasted -- primarily because of higher costs and lower overall unit volumes.

Intel's lower revenue and gross margin led to a sharp 25% decline in operating income to $2.9 billion. A lower effective tax rate lessened the hit to net income, which fell only 3% to $2.7 billion. Share buybacks further mitigated the impact to earnings per share, which remained flat year over year at $0.55 and ahead of the $0.50 Wall Street was expecting.
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...lts-top-expectat.aspx?source=eogyholnk0000001

Intel beats estimates again.
 

Phynaz

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We know that you hate it that Intel had another killer quarter while AMD's completely fell apart.

Now you know why Intel didn't warn like AMD did.

For the full year, management lowered its revenue guidance and is now forecasting a decline of 1% compared with 2014, versus its previous expectation of revenue remaining flat year over year. Gross margin, however, is now expected to be 61.5%, up from a previous estimate of 61%.

Think AMD is going to pull off anything close to that?
 
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...ates_because_nobody_expected_it_to_earn_much/

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Once again, it was the Client Computing group – which recently absorbed the virtually penniless Mobile Computing group – that dragged its feet the most. Sales of PCs, laptops, and tablets were down 13.6 per cent, year on year, to $7.54bn. It was the unit's worst performance in four quarters.

Even worse, Client Computing's margins appear to be growing ever tighter. The unit's total operating income for the quarter was just $1.60bn, which was down a gruesome 38.6 per cent annually."

Intel text:
http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...6EC7B3D6C250/CFO_Commentary_Q2_2015_Final.pdf
Intel said:
Client Computing Group had revenue of $7.5B, down 14% with platform volumes down 10% and
platform average selling prices down 3%. Desktop platform volumes were down 22% and desktop
platform average selling prices were up 6%. Notebook platform volumes were down 11% and
notebook platform average selling prices were down 2%. Tablet volumes were up 11% and
 
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Desktop is dead, dead, dead.

I think that a big part of the decline is that OEMs are managing desktop inventories very low ahead of Skylake. Who wants to be stuck holding Haswell inventory with Skylake is imminent?

Also, desktops saw a big surge last year due to XP refresh, so the compare on a y/y basis is much tougher.
 
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It's not necessarily impairment, it could be restructuring charges too... or screw ups from the failed 10nm ramp up.

I think it's restructuring. "Screw ups" from the 10nm ramp would probably show up as startup charges which AFAIK impacts COGS/gross profit margin. I don't think it would show up under the "impairment" line item.
 

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I think that a big part of the decline is that OEMs are managing desktop inventories very low ahead of Skylake. Who wants to be stuck holding Haswell inventory with Skylake is imminent?

Also, desktops saw a big surge last year due to XP refresh, so the compare on a y/y basis is much tougher.

I think for the desktop this is an irreversible decline and that trend won't change, skylake or not.
 

mrmt

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I think it's restructuring. "Screw ups" from the 10nm ramp would probably show up as startup charges which AFAIK impacts COGS/gross profit margin. I don't think it would show up under the "impairment" line item.

IIRC the charge you are talking about is the write off of the wafers used in the
qualification process, which are reversed upon a successful qualification of the products.

What I'm talking about is about equipment that will yield lower cash flows than acquisition costs, which triggers a write down through impairment.
 

2is

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We know that you hate it that Intel had another killer quarter

How exactly, are you defining "killer quarter"? By them losing less money than they thought they'd lose? That might be damage limitation but it's still damage.

How would you define a quarter where they increased profits?
 
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How exactly, are you defining "killer quarter"? By them losing less money than they thought they'd lose? That might be damage limitation but it's still damage.

How would you define a quarter where they increased profits?

Intel did not lose money this quarter.
 

2is

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Intel did not lose money this quarter.

My bad, since you didn't know what I mean I'll rephrase

So a "killer quarter" is one where you make less revenue and profit then the year before but had expectations so low that you still made more than you thought you'd make?
 

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How exactly, are you defining "killer quarter"? By them losing less money than they thought they'd lose?
I do not know what "killer quarter" means, but I do know that "losing money" means they have a negative income. Intel has positive income, both operational and net. They are definitely not losing money.
 

krumme

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Another impressive result. Dcg is the definition of a cash cow and it continues to generate profit and more and more each year. Consistently improving.
And it will do so even if 10nm is slowing down. I bet its an even greater catalyser for software sales and other services.
Its the pilar of Intel today.
Mobile is in ruins. Another ~ 1b loss it seems to me. And its probably eating all new nodes for nothing. Its worse than ever. Competing with arm for 50usd tablets. Fantastic. Using the enormous competences and engineering might of Intel to do that. Yeaa We even got into a asus 1080p tablet with x7 - woaa ! Another win...
What a visionless strategy.
 
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