Intel Q213 Results

mrmt

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Not bad for a desperate company that is dumping old inventory.

http://www.intc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=778043&ReleasesType=Financial News

Intel said:
SANTA CLARA, Calif., July 17, 2013 -- Intel Corporation today reported second-quarter revenue of $12.8 billion, operating income of $2.7 billion, net income of $2.0 billion and EPS of $0.39. The company generated approximately $4.7 billion in cash from operations, paid dividends of $1.1 billion, and used $550 million to repurchase 23 million shares of stock.


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Q2 Key Financial Information and Business Unit Trends

PC Client Group revenue of $8.1 billion, up 1.4 percent sequentially and down 7.5 percent year-over-year.

Data Center Group revenue of $2.7 billion, up 6.1 percent sequentially and flat year-over-year.

Other Intel® Architecture Group revenue of $942 million, down 3.7 percent sequentially and down 15.0 percent year-over-year.

Gross margin of 58 percent, up 2 percentage points sequentially and down 5 percentage points year-over-year.

R&D plus MG&A spending of $4.7 billion, in line with the company's expectation of approximately $4.7 billion.

Tax rate of 26 percent.
 
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SiliconWars

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Pretty much as expected. Outlook is cut, ditto capex and net income is almost 30% lower than last the same period last year.

BTW, there will be a Silvermont powered Galaxy TAB 3.

There is already a Clover Trail powered Galaxy Tab 3, do you mean that one?
http://gigaom.com/2013/07/16/galaxy-tab-3-10-inch-vs-nexus-10/
 

bullzz

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"desperate company"?
maintaining the overall revenue even after losing 7.5% revenue in PC sales is really good.
 

SiliconWars

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The Data Center results don't look that good. I (and the community) had expected an increase there but the revenue is flat YoY and income slightly decreasing.

Data Center was what saved their results in Q1 though, so it's no surprise to see it going nowhere in Q2.

The important part is they are finally admitting it'll be a miss for the year, on revenue and gross margins. Again, that's no surprise - everybody except Intel realised that this was going to happen and now they've finally woken up to the reality of the situation and made the proper cuts.
 

jpiniero

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maintaining the overall revenue even after losing 7.5% revenue in PC sales is really good.

It's a little unfair to compare Q1 to Q2. It's much better to compare 2012 Q2 to 2013 Q2. If I am reading the chart right, Q2 2012 Intel made 2.8B, whereas in this quarter made 2B. That's pretty crappy if you think about it, but not unexpected.
 

SiliconWars

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It gets worse the closer you look at it. They have admitted that channel inventory has grown when Haswell was supposed to be saving the skin of the PC this quarter. Chinese sales are also struggling (this one will hit AMD hard as well).

It's easy to see why they need Bay Trail to be a huge success.
 

Khato

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It gets worse the closer you look at it. They have admitted that channel inventory has grown when Haswell was supposed to be saving the skin of the PC this quarter. Chinese sales are also struggling (this one will hit AMD hard as well).

It's easy to see why they need Bay Trail to be a huge success.

Not certain I'd put it all on bay trail quite yet - Haswell systems are only now starting to trickle into retail with the majority of systems still being IVB based. Important part being that it looks like the Haswell based systems are starting to show up now in time for BTS sales. Though there will be even more interesting designs coming out with the release of windows 8.1 due to dpi scaling being a necessity on high resolution screens.
 

SiliconWars

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The "other Intel architecture group" consisting of tablets and phones etc seems to be going the way of Nvidia's Tegra. A $608 million loss is incredible (double Q1 loss and double 6-months yoy loss), what is going on there?
 
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The "other Intel architecture group" consisting of tablets and phones etc seems to be going the way of Nvidia's Tegra. A $608 million loss is incredible (double Q1 loss and double 6-months yoy loss), what is going on there?

The Silvermont based products haven't ramped yet. Netbooks, which were the main drivers for this segment, died. The company also needs to release LTE chips in order to be competitive in baseband.

Things should get a lot better for this segment next year. Not sure if Baytrail-M/D will be counted in PCG or Other IA.
 

Phynaz

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The Data Center results don't look that good. I (and the community) had expected an increase there but the revenue is flat YoY and income slightly decreasing.

Intel had some bright spots this quarter, namely their data center group, which Intel has relied on to help make their numbers over the past few quarters. Intel cited that both the storage and cloud markets were highlights, up 40%, while networking was up 20%. Intel’s data center success is attributable to locking up close to over 95% of the server market processors and from growth in mobility, namely smartphones, who need datacenter performance to do what they need to do.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...el-reports-q2-results-in-line-with-estimates/
 

Sweepr

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Not certain I'd put it all on bay trail quite yet - Haswell systems are only now starting to trickle into retail with the majority of systems still being IVB based. Important part being that it looks like the Haswell based systems are starting to show up now in time for BTS sales. Though there will be even more interesting designs coming out with the release of windows 8.1 due to dpi scaling being a necessity on high resolution screens.

Exactly. And Intel hasnt released any standard voltage dual-core Haswell yet.
 

NTMBK

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PC Client Group revenue ... down 7.5 percent year-over-year.

Data Center Group revenue ... flat year-over-year.

Other Intel® Architecture Group revenue ... down 15.0 percent year-over-year.

Gross margin of 58 percent ... down 5 percentage points year-over-year.

Hardly a resounding success. Let's hope their mobile efforts pay off.
 

SiliconWars

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Revenue is flat but operating income is down over 10% YoY. It's hard to get away from it - Intel is basically down 1/3rd in operating income over all segments since last year.

What is scary is that you know they are pulling out the stops (like they always do). Intel never lets up, they give it everything to make the most money they can quarter after quarter.

PC volume sales are up 5% sequentially, but ASP's are down 3%. The channel is over-stuffed to the point where it can't take much more. All the while everybody assumes that Q3 is going to turn up as usual and save the PC's bacon.
 

AnandThenMan

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The days of a high volume, high priced processor market are basically over. This is a market Intel monopolized and made their billions from for decades, now Intel is going to have to re-imagine themselves and acclimate to a lower margin world.

Will not be surprising to see Intel's fabs become more and more idle, opening them up to 3rd parties is something they should have been transitioning to several quarters ago.
 

shady28

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Revenue is flat but operating income is down over 10% YoY. It's hard to get away from it - Intel is basically down 1/3rd in operating income over all segments since last year.

What is scary is that you know they are pulling out the stops (like they always do). Intel never lets up, they give it everything to make the most money they can quarter after quarter.

PC volume sales are up 5% sequentially, but ASP's are down 3%. The channel is over-stuffed to the point where it can't take much more. All the while everybody assumes that Q3 is going to turn up as usual and save the PC's bacon.

I share the sentiment but I think your first sentence is off -

Revenue is down ~6% and operating income is down over 30%.

For the 3 months ended June 29th 2013 vs three months ended June 30th 2012 :

Operating income went from 3.82 billion to 2.72 billion.

Revenue is down from 13.5 billion to 12.8 billion.

This is despite the Haswell launch, which normally would have given margins and sales an artificial boost.

The danger for intel is that the market will shrink another 6% of revenue (or more) over the next 12 months, and they will be unable to maintain their operating budgets and still be profitable (operating costs were mostly flat vs 2012).

At that point they will have to start to reorganize (read: downsize).

By no means are they the underdog, but they're behind the curve on mobile and not doing anything really compelling in their bread-and-butter desktop market.
 
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