Intel Releases Penryn Details

Phynaz

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410 million transistors on a 107mm die.

6MB cache per chip

"Super Shuffle Engine" - Penryn will have the ability to perform 128-bit data shuffle operations in a single cycle. Gelsinger said this fast shuffle capability should make SSE4 much more programmable and more useful for compiled code, because the CPU will quickly handle realigning data as needed for vector execution.

A faster divider ? Penryn will be faster clock-for-clock than current Core 2 processors, and not just because of larger caches and SSE4. The CPU has a new, faster divider that can process four bits per clock versus the two bits per clock of current Conroe chips. Accordingly, Gelsinger expects twice the divide performance of Core 2 Duo and up to four times the performance for square-root operations.

Bus speeds up to 1600MHz

A new lower power state

Dynamic Acceleration Tech

Clock speeds over 3GHz

Edit:

More - Automatic overclocking for single threaded apps
When one CPU core is busy while the other is idle, thus not requiring much power or producing much heat, Penryn will take advantage. The chip will boost the clock speed of the busy core to a higher-than-stock frequency?while staying within its established thermal envelope.

Quad core over 45% faster than current fastest Xeon.
 

StopSign

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Originally posted by: Phynaz
Clock speeds over 3GHz
All I can say is WOW! We all have overclocked C2Ds here and we all know how they perform above 3 GHz. If Intel starts releasing these high clocked stock chips then it makes it that much harder for AMD to catch up.

And this might not be a good thing.
 

nyker96

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damn you beat me to it just about to post! :]

Linky

yeah I wish this thing is H2,2007 selling at $100, wouldn't that be wild :]
 

jeffbui

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Is the mobile version of Penryn also going to be called Penryn? I haven't seen anything referring to the mobile version. Usually Intel releases their mobile chips on a smaller process before their desktop chips. Maybe this situation is different?
 

aigomorla

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mine when it comes out.

Still have my money on my QX sale. Should be enough for the CPU and some.

Anyone know if were going to be requiring new boards for these chips?
 

deeznuts

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Originally posted by: jeffbui
Is the mobile version of Penryn also going to be called Penryn? I haven't seen anything referring to the mobile version. Usually Intel releases their mobile chips on a smaller process before their desktop chips. Maybe this situation is different?

I think it's just called Mobile Penryn. Look up Montevina
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
mine when it comes out.

Still have my money on my QX sale. Should be enough for the CPU and some.

Anyone know if were going to be requiring new boards for these chips?

well its 1600 bus speed, so probably need a new mobo.
 

Hajpoj

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Of course I'll drag my feet on this, I doubt I'm going to need it for games for at least a few years.
 

Alaa

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I was surprised to find that the comparison between Core and Penryn is not clock for clock!! Probably because I didn't notice the speeds. AMD might have the faster processor after all.
 

Phynaz

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Originally posted by: Alaa
I was surprised to find that the comparison between Core and Penryn is not clock for clock!! Probably because I didn't notice the speeds. AMD might have the faster processor after all.

How would you get that from Penryn being faster clock for clock than Conroe?

 

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I have to say, this looks like it far exceeds just a shrink of Conroe.

Looks to me like significant architechture changes have been made.

This thing is going to seriously crank, and dang it's a physically puny chip. Intel is going to make a train load of money on these things.
 

formulav8

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From what I gathered, Penryn won'tb e enough to overtake AMD's new arch. Especially in certain FP area's. Penryn would have to overcome Up to a 40% advantage that Barc will have. The changes they mentioned won't be able to take that big of a leap. Just my opinion of course

There Nehalem cpu in the future looks to be a total beast. That is the ONE to look forward too.



Jason
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Alaa
I was surprised to find that the comparison between Core and Penryn is not clock for clock!! Probably because I didn't notice the speeds. AMD might have the faster processor after all.

Well I expect Penryn to at least equal Conroe clock per clock, and most likely it will be a tad faster due to larger caches. The new microarchitecture should being some improvements as well, how much is hard to say at this point.
 

StrangerGuy

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I will be very surprised if K8L can match Penyrn's overall performance given that the latter gets a efficiency and clockspeed boost .

 

myocardia

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Phynaz, how well do you get paid to post on the different forums? Do they let you just cut and paste? At first I was a bit annoyed that you were posting here, since it was quite obvious that you were on someone's payroll, but since you're civil, and only bring us the latest news from the Intel camp, I've changed my mind. I'm amazed that there's been so much news from the Intel camp in the last 6 months, though.
 

StopSign

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Originally posted by: formulav8
From what I gathered, Penryn won'tb e enough to overtake AMD's new arch. Especially in certain FP area's. Penryn would have to overcome Up to a 40% advantage that Barc will have. The changes they mentioned won't be able to take that big of a leap. Just my opinion of course
But that's just FP performance and the K8 architecture has always done very well in that area. Even the X2s right now are much faster than Conroes at FP. It doesn't mean it's faster in overall performance.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: StopSign
Originally posted by: formulav8
From what I gathered, Penryn won'tb e enough to overtake AMD's new arch. Especially in certain FP area's. Penryn would have to overcome Up to a 40% advantage that Barc will have. The changes they mentioned won't be able to take that big of a leap. Just my opinion of course
But that's just FP performance and the K8 architecture has always done very well in that area. Even the X2s right now are much faster than Conroes at FP. It doesn't mean it's faster in overall performance.

Is it much faster? I had the impression that INT performance on Conroes exceeded the X2 by far but the FP you ended up being about the same.
 

Alaa

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Alaa
I was just skimming so I was looking at "%".

amd fanboy,,,,,,,lol
ROFL! I have never used AMD before!! What is wrong with looking at "%"? I want to know the fastest processor but that doesn't mean I'll buy anything!
 
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