Intel settles with FTC

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bryanW1995

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yeah, I've, um, "heard" that many car dealers sell cars below cost all the time. we, er, they, just make it up in volume. the US auto market is so fragmented that there are no monopoly concerns at all there.
 

ydnas7

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its more a case of hire vehicles or accommodation pricing structure
hire company may say 6 days or less, the rate is $70 per day
7 days or more, the rate is $60 per day
which to a competitor is equivalent to saying 6 days at $70, 7th day is free, 8th day is $60.
the settlement explicitly prohibits the above, but is usual and legal business practice. https://www.airportrentacar.com.au/brisbanerates.php
 

ydnas7

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http://techreport.com/r.x/clarkdale/clarkdale-chip-map.jpg
look at the area devoted to PCIe IO and PCI controls, its large and takes up die area that business users would prefer not to have on their chip. (if you think people with discrete cards think IGP is a waste of space, employers can think gaming capability is a negative which they would prefer not have if possible.) If AMD were to target corporate desktops, selling a mild fusion CPU without PCIe would be seen as an advantage over an Intel equivalent with PCIe.
 

ydnas7

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some thoughts on Sandybridge development
they knew they were to compete with AMD/ATI fusion (external) and the Government of Abu Dhabi
they knew they were to compete with Larrabee (internal)
they later also came to compete with Nvidia

in essence, i don't think any Intel team has had the same level of motivation to perform since the dismal netburst days when AMD was superior and PowerPC was still potent, Intel Haifa really really wants this to be a star product
 

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I think most people would agree competition in general is beneficial to an economy based on free-market. But we at the same time learned long ago that certain things could not be left to the market itself. Corporations are never a friend of a free market. Given chance, they will do everything they can to be rid of competitions. (Disclaimer: I run a small business myself) It's not a coincidence in history you'd find a few giant conglomerates that parasites under a military dictatorship.

Even in a modern, developed free-market we still often run into dilemma. In the case of Intel suits we often hear things like exclusives, incentives, co-marketing, rebates, etc. One would think they are perfectly legitimate practices and s/he might be right in a perfect world. But things don't exist in vacuum, and even if we discount the monopoly status (and the market power that naturally comes with it), there still are issues that arise from the "totality of circumstances".

"Rebates" may not sound bad. But most would not think highly of "Bribery". When does rebates become bribes? Where do you draw the line?

"Incentives" are almost a necessity for progress, yet not many would like to be "coerced" under false pretense of "choice". And many would agree that a choice under coercion isn't really a choice at all.

"Co-marketing" does sound great, but most would be upset if they were duped by, say, price-fixing. After all, consumers are the one who ultimately pay for such corruptive practices.

So at the end it all comes down to balancing. Some make it sound to be an easy matter, but I'm afraid not. Unless one's an extremist, s/he has no choice but to see the line drawing problem - between rebates and bribes, incentives and cocercion, cooperation and corruption, etc. And that's just a small part of what this suit is about.

One of the best most balanced posts I've seen in a long time.
 
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