It'd be nice if Anand reran their tests with faster memory. If the CPU sees substantial benefits, I can only imagine that the iGPU would see huge improvements.
I wonder where I've seen similar graphs before...It isn't. AnandTech used the slowest DDR4 out there, 2133MHz.
It beats Haswell using faster DDR4 RAM as shown by HardOCP tests above.
Hardware.fr used DDR4 3600MHz and Skylake beat Haswell by 10% per clock (average) in the games they tested.
Yea, well the point was cherry-picking data. In two of three games Skylake was clearly faster, while in the one game he was touting as an AMD victory, the difference was pretty much within the margin of error.
It'd be nice if Anand reran their tests with faster memory. If the CPU sees substantial benefits, I can only imagine that the iGPU would see huge improvements.
Are we looking at the same graphs? 95 watt Kaveri top of the line is 5% faster in Bioshock, while Skylake is 58% faster in Half Life and 25% faster in GTA V.
And that is the "baseline" quad core igp. To be honest, I am surprised you would even comment on these charts, since they are an absolute humiliation for AMD. Think what iris pro will do.
AMD A8-7600 65W TDP is ~9% faster than 95W TDP DDR-4 Skylake GT2.
AMD A10-7800 65W TDP is 8% faster than 95W TDP DDR-4 Skylake GT2
You keep repeating the TDP as if it was important in these cases- take a look at any of the reviews measuring power delta on IGP gaming vs idle and you will see that these SKylake parts don't use anywhere close to 95w.
Also, according to all the rumors, the same gt2 graphics is coming to lower TDP (-S and -T series) and/or cheaper skus (Core i3) soon.
So... Kabylake could trash the lower tier HBM GPU... Or reach up to GTX 970 levels.
Is US getting the short stick again? Its for sale everywhere in europe and asia.
Now that we know the influence of faster DDR4 memory I think that's what they should do. Also they should include at least a few CPU bound gaming benchmarks instead of the usual prescripted tests.
Nope, it was on par with the GT-740, an $89 part that launched a year ago on a manufacturing process two generations behind Intel's.If Intel is increasing to 72EU, nVIDIA must think that lost the war too... If Broadwell Gpu was as strong as Gtx 750Ti, Skylake could easily reach 960 levels due better EDram and DDR4.
Keep dreaming. And how much will that cost? 6700K already costs $350 without eDRAM and without Iris. Now add Iris + HBM. Who buys a $500 CPU to game on IGP?So... Kabylake could trash the lower tier HBM GPU... Or reach up to GTX 970 levels.
Is US getting the short stick again? Its for sale everywhere in europe and asia.
Edit: And remmember AnandTech, PCGH and most websites used slower DDR4-2133 RAM!
I can find any. Not at Microcenter, not on newegg nor amazon.
Hoping i can get a bundle deal at Microcenter. Nothing posted as of yet
Right now all I have is 2x8 GB sticks of Corsair LPX DDR 4 2133
Actually with DDR4, things change dramatically.Nope, it was on par with the GT-740, an $89 part that launched a year ago on a manufacturing process two generations behind Intel's.
So, even with Intel's vastly superior manufacturing and eDRAM, that's the best they could manage while costing over 3x more.
Keep dreaming. And how much will that cost? 6700K already costs $350 without eDRAM and without Iris. Now add Iris + HBM. Who buys a $500 CPU to game on IGP?
Actually with DDR4, things change dramatically.
Intel iGPU has nVIDIA tech this time too (due licences obtained) and look that without EDRAM Intel trashed all the current iGPU avaliable(humillating AMD to a new levels), except Broadwell one due EDRAM.
Take a look at PCGH IGP gaming tests:
www.pcgameshardware.de/Core-i7-6700K-CPU-260905/Tests/Skylake-Test-Core-i7-6700K-i5-6600K-1166741
Except Bioshock Skylake GT2 was on par with A8 7600 and not far behind the fastest A10 7870K. Broadwell-K beat them and now Skylake-S closes the gap in lower price points, AMD's once huge graphics performance advantage is eroding fast.
Edit: And remmember AnandTech, PCGH and most websites used slower DDR4-2133 RAM!
Now that we know the influence of faster DDR4 memory I think that's what they should do. Also they should include at least a few CPU bound gaming benchmarks instead of the usual prescripted tests.