Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[phillyman36]

im going for 3000mhz C15 which seems to be the sweet spot atm.

I cant find the 3000mhz in stock

 

[Pandamonia]

I cant find the 3000mhz in stock

nor me!

 

[DrMrLordX]

So Gen9 supports compute task pre-emption. That's a similar feature to what Carrizo has over Kaveri. For anyone interested in GPGPU, that's a must-have feature.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Most shops? Not many selling it yet.

Your next task on your road to enlightenment is to figure out the exchange rate and VAT of countries.

Not that you have shown the MSRP price anywhere yet. Despite your claims of doing so.

Here's the price at a few stores around the world from a quick Google-search for "intel BXTS15A":

$45.99 CAD : http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-bxts15a-boxed-thermal-solution-ff-112908.htm

$49 AUD : http://www.computeralliance.com.au/intel-bxts15a-heatsink-and-fan-for-s1151/1156/1150

£24.60: https://www.lambda-tek.com/Intel-BXTS15A~sh/B2163534

349 NOK: http://www.ps.no/intel-bxts15a-thermal-solution-air/cat-p/c/p8170848

586 DKK: https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/tilbeh%C3%B8r/servertilbeh%C3%B8r/intel/bxts15a-thermal-solution-air.html

As can be seen, at most stores the Intel BXTS15A CPU cooler costs around €30-50 level. I.e. pretty close to the $41.5 mentioned before.

Note that this is of course no statistical average sales price, but it at least gives us a hint of what it costs.

Its currently sold at ~26$ in Scandinavia.

Really? Check this out for Scandinavian pricing:

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=3266584

The cheapest one is 280 SEK (~€30), most are at 380 SEK (~€40).

 

[ShintaiDK]

Here's the price at a few stores around the world from a quick Google-search for "intel BXTS15A":

$45.99 CAD : http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-bxts15a-boxed-thermal-solution-ff-112908.htm

$49 AUD : http://www.computeralliance.com.au/intel-bxts15a-heatsink-and-fan-for-s1151/1156/1150

£24.60: https://www.lambda-tek.com/Intel-BXTS15A~sh/B2163534

349 NOK: http://www.ps.no/intel-bxts15a-thermal-solution-air/cat-p/c/p8170848

586 DKK: https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/tilbeh%C3%B8r/servertilbeh%C3%B8r/intel/bxts15a-thermal-solution-air.html

As can be seen, at most stores the Intel BXTS15A CPU cooler costs around €30-50 level. I.e. pretty close to the $41.5 mentioned before.

PS. Note that this is of course no statistical average sales price, but it at least gives us a hint of what it costs.

Not really.

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=3266584
Sweden 280SEK with 25% VAT.

http://www.prisjakt.no/product.php?p=3266584
Norway 278NOK with 25% VAT.

http://www.pricerunner.dk/cl/184/Co...;;&q=bxts15a&ref=redirect&search=bxts15a&sp=1
Denmark 269DKK with 25% VAT.

And price+listings will first settle around a month or so. And it can only go further down.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Really? Check this out for Scandinavian pricing:

http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=3266584

The cheapest one is 280 SEK (~€30), most are at 380 SEK (~€40).

What is 280SEK in USD and then remove 25% VAT?

280*.8=224SEK without VAT.

224SEK=26.5USD.

 

[Sweepr]

https://software.intel.com/sites/de...ure-of-Intel-Processor-Graphics-Gen9-v1d0.pdf

Beautiful, small and a lot more square than Haswell 4C+GT2 (177mm², below).
Aracnothronic was almost spot on with his prediction.
Any idea of Skylake core size yet?

Cool, where did you get it, cause I can't find the PDF in the IDF session overview.

So the GPU portion is just as big as the CPU. In any case that puts to rest any outrageous estimates that the GPU is more than 50% of the die. Given it is 122mm squared, anyone cares to calculate how big the IGP area is? Edit: 44mm squared or 36% of the die.

Nice find. About the same % as Haswell 4C+GT2, bodes well for <200mm² 4C+GT4e.

Looks like Intel is ready to integrate eDRAM in lower end SKUs if they feel they need to. Here's hoping for a dual-core + GT3e/GT4e desktop part.

 

[Pandamonia]

Your Order:

1 x Intel Core i7-6700K 4.00GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor @ 335.94GBP
1 x Asus Z170 DELUXE WiFi USB 3.1 Skylake ATX Motherboard @ 234.98GBP
1 x Corsair 16GB DDR4 Vengeance LPX 3000MHz Memory Kit for Skylake @ 117.79GBP

Boom

 

[witeken]

Beautiful, small and a lot more square than Haswell 4C+GT2 (177mm², below).
Aracnothronic was almost spot on with his prediction.
Any idea of Skylake core size yet?

Nice find. About the same % as Haswell 4C+GT2, bodes well for <200mm² 4C+GT4e.

Looks like Intel is ready to integrate eDRAM in lower end SKUs if they feel they need to. Here's hoping for a dual-core + GT3e/GT4e desktop part.

One Skylake core is 8.9mm squared. Haswell is 14.5: https://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6857.

Assuming a 2x or 2.2x higher density, that's a 23% or 35% higher transistor count, respectively.

What was Ashraf his prediction?

Edit: Compared to the theoretical 2.2x shrink from Haswell 177mm, the 122mm Skylake adds an appreciably amount of transistors.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Your Order:

1 x Intel Core i7-6700K 4.00GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor @ 335.94GBP
1 x Asus Z170 DELUXE WiFi USB 3.1 Skylake ATX Motherboard @ 234.98GBP
1 x Corsair 16GB DDR4 Vengeance LPX 3000MHz Memory Kit for Skylake @ 117.79GBP

Boom

 

[Sweepr]

Looks like the low-hanging fruit has been picked for ARM players.

Apple A9X leaked Geekbench 3 scores:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

Apple A8X:
Single-core: 1812
Multi-core: 4477

13-16% better CPU performance, and that's moving from 20nm to 16nm FinFET.

 

[Deders]

Your Order:

1 x Intel Core i7-6700K 4.00GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor @ 335.94GBP
1 x Asus Z170 DELUXE WiFi USB 3.1 Skylake ATX Motherboard @ 234.98GBP
1 x Corsair 16GB DDR4 Vengeance LPX 3000MHz Memory Kit for Skylake @ 117.79GBP

Boom

Mine totalled up to £666 hence it is now called the beast.

 

[witeken]

Looks like the low-hanging fruit has been picked for ARM players.

Apple A9X leaked Geekbench 3 scores:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

Apple A8X:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

13-16% better CPU performance, and that's moving from 20nm to 16nm FinFET.

It makes sense to focus on energy efficiency with this Tick and then do a Tock with higher clocks.

 

[Pandamonia]

Mine totalled up to £666 hence it is now called the beast.

The mobo went out of stock at scan and then all the 3000mhz ram went out of stock. The CPU is only at a few retailers.

So i just bit the bullet and thought F*** it.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Looks like the low-hanging fruit has been picked for ARM players.

Apple A9X leaked Geekbench 3 scores:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

Apple A8X:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

13-16% better CPU performance, and that's moving from 20nm to 16nm FinFET.

I wanted to say the same thing. The ARM players are getting arguably the single biggest node-to-node jump they've ever seen moving to FinFETs, and even a premier vendor like Apple is delivering "only" (I loathe to come off as belittling the significant work that likely went into actually getting this improvement) a 30% generation-on-generation CPU performance boost.

Expect year-over-year CPU performance improvements to slow considerably.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Looks like the low-hanging fruit has been picked for ARM players.

Apple A9X leaked Geekbench 3 scores:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

Apple A8X:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

13-16% better CPU performance, and that's moving from 20nm to 16nm FinFET.

It was obvious for everyone but the most blind. Plus it seems there isnt much difference between 20nm and 16FF. Just like Samsungs SoCs. the disappointment in 16FF/14FF products from TSMC/Samsung will be huge.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Looks like the low-hanging fruit has been picked for ARM players.

Apple A9X leaked Geekbench 3 scores:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

Apple A8X:
Single-core: 2109
Multi-core: 5101

13-16% better CPU performance, and that's moving from 20nm to 16nm FinFET.

You have the same scores listed for the A9X & A8X

 

[steve wilson]

Your Order:

1 x Intel Core i7-6700K 4.00GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor @ 335.94GBP
1 x Asus Z170 DELUXE WiFi USB 3.1 Skylake ATX Motherboard @ 234.98GBP
1 x Corsair 16GB DDR4 Vengeance LPX 3000MHz Memory Kit for Skylake @ 117.79GBP

Boom

What does the deluxe do that justifies that price? Does it overclock better or is it just extra features?

 

[CHADBOGA]

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I wanted to say the same thing. The ARM players are getting arguably the single biggest node-to-node jump they've ever seen moving to FinFETs, and even a premier vendor like Apple is delivering "only" (I loathe to come off as belittling the significant work that likely went into actually getting this improvement) a 30% generation-on-generation CPU performance boost.

Expect year-over-year CPU performance improvements to slow considerably.

You are failing to take into account ARM's magic pixie dust, just ask Internet Strongman Juanrga.

 

[Arachnotronic]

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You are failing to take into account ARM's magic pixie dust, just ask Internet Strongman Juanrga.

:biggrin:

 

[ShintaiDK]

You have the same scores listed for the A9X & A8X

In his source A8X is 1812 and 4477.

 

[Sweepr]

I wanted to say the same thing. The ARM players are getting arguably the single biggest node-to-node jump they've ever seen moving to FinFETs, and even a premier vendor like Apple is delivering "only" (I loathe to come off as belittling the significant work that likely went into actually getting this improvement) a 30% generation-on-generation CPU performance boost.

Expect year-over-year CPU performance improvements to slow considerably.

It was obvious for everyone but the most blind. Plus it seems there isnt much difference between 20nm and 16FF. Just like Samsungs SoCs. the disappointment in 16FF/14FF products from TSMC/Samsung will be huge.

Curiously it's about half the improvement of Apple A9 which looks like a 20-30% CPU performance increase. That's very conservative and kind of a disappointment after Apple A6X, A7 and A8X almost doubled CPU performance over its predecessors.

The fastest Skylake-Y Core M could very well score >3000/6000 ST/MT @ Geekbench 3 and this time there's no node advantage excuse. This will be an interesting match.

You have the same scores listed for the A9X & A8X

Fixed.

 

[Pandamonia]

What does the deluxe do that justifies that price? Does it overclock better or is it just extra features?

For me it has the integrated wifi which i need.

Not sure what else but the reviews are glowing.

i have cut corners in the past and made compromises and regretted it later. This time i dont need to.

 

[phillyman36]

im going for 3000mhz C15 which seems to be the sweet spot atm.

Please don't tell me I shouldnt have gotten the ddr4 3200 lol

Ps you can has the i7 6700k shipped to you from Japan for
$5279.26 lol

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B012M8LXQW/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

 

[Tovarisc]

I had Twitch stream open on 2nd monitor [in Chrome], on Source quality, and noticed clear system slowdown when I tried to do anything CPU intensive like e.g. unpack large .zip. This one Twitch stream [read: Adobe Flash] was using ~55% of CPU as average.

Doesn't matter if HW Acceleration is enabled of disabled, or if running Chrome integrated and separately installed Adobe Flash.

Didn't expect that Flash would use as much of i5 6600K as it did use my old i5 750. Weirdly enough with my old build I was able to do some gaming while having stream open, but now it's impossible as CPU gets choked so bad.