Kabylake-Y:
- Gen10 gpu
- IA core even more tweaked for client instead of server segment
- 32 MB of 14nm eDRAM integrated on die
I've been playing with my 6600K
Might regret choosing a Gigabyte board this go-round, haha, voltage has been weird. Setting past 1.3v just grants me about the 1.27 I'm at right now. I can set 1.28, 1.3, 1.325, 1.35 whatever, its just 1.27 in windows. Think I have to play with the offset voltage option. Very stupid.
I also needed to turn LLC to high. My OCing was FCKd until I did this
After making the correction I'm doing OCCT and Realbench2.41 @ 4.6 Ghz
OCCT brings volts to 1.270
Realbench brings volts to only 1.20? I'm amazed it's still running.
Loading @ mid-upper 60's Noctua NH-D15
Complete build: 6600K, Gigabyte z170x Gaming7, 4x4gb Ripjaws 4 3000 15-15-15-35, evga 750w plat, 980ti.
What are you using to measure voltage. CPUz isn't accurate yet, Aida64 is accurate for Asus boards. Raja at overclocker.net has confirmed this with a multimeter. Probably a better bet than the others for now.
It's just a range and due to speed shift and smarter power budget transfers there might be more chances to reach those high or just a bit lower clocks. Also temperature and package budgets might be used more efficiently at finer granularities. So it will be closer to cTDP than before.Hmm. What're the implications of Skylake-Y's higher boost clocks with respect to power consumption?
yes ok, so this is more of the "dream" part..
Second Generation Core M (Skylake-Y) Specifications
www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015082701_Details_of_6th_generation_Core_M_processors.html
Higher CPU base and/or turbo clocks and graphics clocks depending on the model. 3W SDP/4.5W TDP. New naming scheme with low, mid and high-end models now.
Do you have to be a premier member with them to send back the motherboard that's part of a combo deal?
So when will Skylake laptops be for sale? As in ACTUALLY available on the internet, Amazon, newegg, etc
I could use an upgrade, my trusty Ivy bridge 3110m laptop is starting to show it's age.
Sales start next month, at least in most of the world.
September 1 in Asia, September 27 in most of the rest of the world. See:
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/...edule_of_Intel_mobile_Skylake_processors.html
But from what I've heard there are several OEMs that have the stocks filled with old Haswell/Broadwell laptops, so they might intentionally delay releasing new Skylake based models until they have cleared out old inventory.
Europe still get. And laptops are already listed and ready for sale.
Thanks!
Max base clocks look identical to Broadwell Y (they topped out at 1.1/1.2 GHz too). I was hoping for some improvement there.
Can they really achieve the above then...? 17% higher CPU performance for example? And 41% higher GPU performance?
Also, I think the big issue is whether the base (and turbo) clocks can be sustained without throttling. Hopefully the OEMs have learnt something from previous Broadwell Y designs so they will do better this time. I wonder if Intel also has made any changes to mitigate the throttling, making it easier for OEMs to avoid those problems seen on Broadwell Y?
Broadwell 5Y71 was also 1.2/2.9 Ghz. But maybe the 2.9 Ghz was only with one core at max clock?Max dual-core Turbo is now 2.9GHz (up from 2.6GHz), graphics at 1000MHz (up from 850-900MHz).
Skylake-Y might be able to sustain isolated CPU/iGPU Turbo for longer periods and also handle CPU+iGPU workloads better than the first generation, so the improvement could be bigger than the clock difference suggests.
Is there any information released so far that indicates this? Or is it just speculation?
Broadwell 5Y71 was also 1.2/2.9 Ghz. But maybe the 2.9 Ghz was only with one core at max clock?
If so, what is the max single core turbo on Skylake Y? Is it the same as the max dual core turbo, i.e. 2.9 Ghz?
I've been playing with my 6600K
Might regret choosing a Gigabyte board this go-round, haha, voltage has been weird. Setting past 1.3v just grants me about the 1.27 I'm at right now. I can set 1.28, 1.3, 1.325, 1.35 whatever, its just 1.27 in windows. Think I have to play with the offset voltage option. Very stupid.
I also needed to turn LLC to high. My OCing was FCKd until I did this
After making the correction I'm doing OCCT and Realbench2.41 @ 4.6 Ghz
OCCT brings volts to 1.270
Realbench brings volts to only 1.20? I'm amazed it's still running.
Loading @ mid-upper 60's Noctua NH-D15
Complete build: 6600K, Gigabyte z170x Gaming7, 4x4gb Ripjaws 4 3000 15-15-15-35, evga 750w plat, 980ti.
I had a lot of issues with my Gigabyte z170x-UD5 board at first. So much so that I returned it and bought another thinking it was defective. But I had the same exact issues. So after reading a review and contacting Gigabyte support, the answer was that the F2 Bios is basically fubar! Updated to F3c on my board and all problems went away.
After that my voltage displayed on Aida64 is exactly what I set it to in the BIOS.
Also, I always use High LLC. On the Standard setting, there was still way too much vdroop.
Most notably, running my mem at 3000 15-15-15-35 1.35v (XMP) vs. default 2133 settings causes my CPU to get hotter. About 10 C hotter under load. Does this sound right? I'm not used to CPU being affected so much by mem settings, reminds me of AMD64 memory controller days.
Is there any information released so far that indicates this? Or is it just speculation?
Solid improvements on Skylake Y. Waiting to the Heatsinkless Intel processors... Seems that Cannonlake Y would mark it.
I say that because once Intel goes Heatsinkless, they can easily put it on a BlackBerry like Phone (keyboard and trackpad) and good bye ARM.
Also... For the people who are looking for laptops is better to go to a Quad Core i5 H tier. It will trash at any means to The Core i7 U
It's literally in the PDF. Lots of work to reduce power to give the CPU cores more headroom, more of the TDP budget for performance.
Edit: IamA with former Intel employee. Not as good as the on with the Intel architect, but some interesting things. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3i9hiw/iama_former_intel_employee_who_has_done/
So it looks like Intel's focus on low power will continue. Good for mobile, but not so great for enthusiasts and alike that mainly would like to see better desktop CPU performance.Question: What does the future hold? More cores? Or some other breakthrough?
Well for the near future its all about shrinking the package.. err making the chip foot print smaller. 32mn 22mn etc. How much can you get out of a smaller package? Can you make it go faster with less power draw? I think that is where it is going for the future. More cores are always great but they do have a larger power draw. In the server market it is all about getting that sweet spot. When you're trying to power a system that has 2 CPU's but you need like 500 systems, that extra power usage adds up fast and makes a lot of heat.
If there is a breakthrough like where I was reading about using carbon then I'm sure that is going to be a long way out (10+ years). Even if that breakthrough happened today and there was a working prototype running, I don't think we would even see them in 5 years. Just the manufacturing plants that you would need to build or even convert would take so long.