Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

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dark zero

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Dont confuse an enthusiast forum with the broad market. Unless average joe wants a hexcore over a quad with no penalty its not going to happen. You are not part of the 99% crowd.

And for the 5820K, remember you compare apples and oranges. 15MB cache and quadchannel. Remember why Broadwell-C performs so insanely good compared to its speed? Or What Skylake needs to stretch its legs on the LGA1151

DX12 if anything will lower CPU usage, not increase it.

And if you are willing to pay for a 6700K. Why not a 5820K?
Sadly, the average Joe can live with a Single Core with HT.
 

ShintaiDK

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We know all models

I will get the NUC6I3SYK myself with an i3 6100U.

The i3 should come next month and I guess the i5 in october.
 

dark zero

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It could be epic to watch a fanless i5 mobile quad on a NUC. It would be fantastic in all scenarios.
 

phillyman36

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Sweepr

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CNET: Singapore's Aftershock SM-15 notebook first to spot new Intel Skylake chips (hands-on)

Here's the interesting parts:

Aftershock who? You're likely not to have heard of Singaporean company Aftershock PC, but the custom notebook and PC manufacturer has been gaining recognition locally for its attractively priced custom-fitted hardware. Impressively, the company has piqued the interest of Intel, with the chipmaker partnering up with Aftershock to be one of the first few manufacturers to sell laptops equipped with its latest six-generation processor.

The SM-15 laptop is one of the first few notebooks in the world to sport Intel's Skylake processor, the Core i5 6300HQ, which is a sixth-generation processor from the chipmaker. Intel's latest hardware offers lower power consumption while still improving on both GPU and CPU performance, and Aftershock claims temperatures on notebooks are a lot cooler compared with similar Haswell-equipped models. The GPU in this laptop is the very mainstream Nvidia 960M.

The Aftershock SM-15 will be available in Singapore from September 5 onwards, and while the company primarily serves the local market, those overseas who are keen can also try to purchase one through the company's website.

www.cnet.com/products/aftershock-sm-15

Retail launch of many Skylake notebooks might happen at or soon after IFA later this week. Hopefully 4C/4T Core i5 6300HQ will be a popular choice among manufacturers.
 

VirtualLarry

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It's Sept 1 here... where's the SKL i3 CPUs??? (And the "B" and "H" DDR3 mobos?)

http://www.asrock.com/news/index.us.asp?id=2890

TAIPEI, Taiwan, August 5, 2015 – Intel's 100 Series, otherwise known as Skylake, the successor of Intel's Broadwell chips, not to be confused with Skynet and the end of human civilization, has finally arrived! The spearhead Z170 chipset are the first to make an appearance, while the embargo dates of others are drawing near as well. This year, ASRock continues its three motherboard product lines, the Extreme Series, ASRock Gaming Series and OC Formula Series.

LOL.
 
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dark zero

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Retail launch of many Skylake notebooks might happen at or soon after IFA later this week. Hopefully 4C/4T Core i5 6300HQ will be a popular choice among manufacturers.
HELL YES! With thost i5, no i7 Trash, I mean U tier will defeat the... wait... with the i5.... it could be the end of the i7 U we know?
 

Ajay

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So nothing in North America...

No - Laptops really rule in the US, at least as far as I've seen in business. As early as 2002 I noticed that young software engineers were choosing a laptop over desktop (they just used a docking station at work to have a larger monitor & better keyboard). If there is a shortage (and this appears to be true), OEMs will get first priority.
 

Fjodor2001

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No - Laptops really rule in the US, at least as far as I've seen in business. As early as 2002 I noticed that young software engineers were choosing a laptop over desktop (they just used a docking station at work to have a larger monitor & better keyboard). If there is a shortage (and this appears to be true), OEMs will get first priority.

Laptops are craptops for software engineering work. Compile time is too long, unless you're working on small SW projects.

If you intend to do serious work you need a proper desktop PC with fast CPU and many cores, SSD, lots of RAM, large display, and proper keyboard & mouse.
 

Ajay

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Laptops are craptops for software engineering work. Compile time is too long, unless you're working on small SW projects.

If you intend to do serious work you need a proper desktop PC with fast CPU and many cores, SSD, lots of RAM, large display, and proper keyboard & mouse.


For serious work you use a build server since all the code is submitted to a repository. At least that was the case with the last large enterprise project I worked on (JEE) and was the case, also, when I was a developer on a large firmware project (Unix based system in C++). Like you, I prefer a beefy desktop system - though I may change to a laptop on the next job I get so I can spend more time at home and less in the office. So long as I have a docking station at work - I think I'll be fine - SSDs are a game changer for me.
 

Fjodor2001

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For serious work you use a build server since all the code is submitted to a repository. At least that was the case with the last large enterprise project I worked on (JEE) and was the case, also, when I was a developer on a large firmware project (Unix based system in C++). Like you, I prefer a beefy desktop system - though I may change to a laptop on the next job I get so I can spend more time at home and less in the office. So long as I have a docking station at work - I think I'll be fine - SSDs are a game changer for me.

Normally the build servers are only used for continuous integration and similar.

With distributed revision control systems like Git, you develop & compile & test & debug on your PC, then submit for code review, and finally push your commits to the central source code repository. The code will then be built on the build servers, and tested in automated test systems. If you have gated commits and similar, the commits will not be merged to official branches until they have passed the tests.

As for SSDs, they are indeed a blessing. Though I have to say that many cores, high clocks, and lots of RAM is also appreciated. And large display, proper keyboard and mouse is a must.
 

Khato

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Eh, there are plenty of different models for software engineering compute resources. For any serious work though using shared server resources reign supreme as then you don't have to provide an 8+ core workstation for every engineer which is going to sit idle how much of the time? Instead you just give your engineers 'light' client machines, typically laptops, which provide the additional advantage of enabling them to work outside the office with basically the same capabilities.

Of course, I still prefer to have an actual workstation-class (aka quad core) laptop because the dual core alternatives don't handle all the non-work stuff anywhere near so well
 
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