Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Fjodor2001]

But you did. April 30th 2015.

Where? What post are you talking about?

 

[Sweepr]

AMD better kiss their graphics performance advantage below $100 goodbye. At $82 MSRP (box) Pentium G4500 is slightly cheaper than their (now discounted) A8 7600 and will be able to match its performance in many titles (minor difference in others). Only difference to Core i7 6700K's iGPU is slightly lower Turbo clocks (~8%). Expect more than double the performance of current Haswell Pentium (adjusting HD Graphics 530 scores).

A8 7600 scores here:
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/622...est-benchmarks-igpu-tomb-raider-1920x1080-low
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Core-...s/Skylake-Test-Core-i7-6700K-i5-6600K-1166741

Intel could easily step up their game below $200 too. They wouldn't even need GT4e, a special edition 2C/4T Core i3 with GT3e (64MB eDRAM) would be pretty small and cheap, and more than enough to match/beat the competition's best APUs at lower prices than Broadwell-K.

 

[Shivansps]

Yes, thats the thing, the G4400 will trash anything that could ever be released on AM1, still dont expect the G4500 to perform like a 6600K in games.

 

[PaulIntellini]

Intel platform codes
Haswell: IHW
Broadwell: IBD
BroadWell U: IBU
Skylake: ISK
SkyLake U: ISU
KadyLake: IKD
Cannonlake: ICN
Baytrail: IBY
Braswell: IBR
Cherrytrail: ICR
Apololake: IAP
GeminiLake: IGM

http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/ideapad Y700 15inch Intel Spec Sheet.pdf

 

[Arachnotronic]

Intel platform codes
Haswell: IHW
Broadwell: IBD
BroadWell U: IBU
Skylake: ISK
SkyLake U: ISU
KadyLake: IKD
Cannonlake: ICN
Baytrail: IBY
Braswell: IBR
Cherrytrail: ICR
Apololake: IAP
GeminiLake: IGM

http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/ideapad Y700 15inch Intel Spec Sheet.pdf

Is GeminiLake the next Atom-based PC chip?

 

[Khato]

Pretty sure those are just Lenovo codes, not Intel ones. (The leading I is kinda redundant for Intel to use.)

 

[PaulIntellini]

Is GeminiLake the next Atom-based PC chip?

Yes, and after that is Mercury Lake

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yes, and after that is Mercury Lake

Cool! Do you know what nodes these parts are on?

 

[PaulIntellini]

Cool! Do you know what nodes these parts are on?

gonna have to ask my NASA contacts ...

 

[Arachnotronic]

Having fun with the 6700K...going to stress test it at 4.7GHz, 1.36V. Using a Corsair H110i cooler on this sucker.

http://valid.x86.fr/3tbf70

 

[zir_blazer]

Do someone knows already if its possible to overclock via Base Clock Multiplier Locked Skylakes? What about non-Z Motherboards? A budget combo with a cheap Pentium and a mid range Motherboard (Low end Chipset with strong VRMs) could be a rather popular choice.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Which is a claim I have never made. Drop the strawman attempts.

How can you claim to have never made such a statement, when your own words shows exactly that?

Read your own quote below:

You're just bitter because in 2016 you'll be sitting on an expensive and slow 4 core Intel CPU, while others will be using a cheaper and faster 8 core AMD CPU.

 

[Fjodor2001]

How can you claim to have never made such a statement, when your own words shows exactly that?

Read your own quote below:

I have already explained more than ten times in this thread in what context and under what assumptions that statement was made. Read those before derailing this thread further.

 

[coercitiv]

I have already explained more than ten times in this thread in what context and under what assumptions that statement was made. Read those before derailing this thread further.

No you haven't: just because members on that thread made some predictions, you are not free of responsibility for your claims based on those predictions, especially when they relate to other forum members. ("You're just bitter...")

If you get in a heated debate based on some performance predictions, you better stand by those predictions yourself or stand aside and let the conversation continue.

 

[Fjodor2001]

No you haven't: just because members on that thread made some predictions, you are not free of responsibility for your claims based on those predictions, especially when they relate to other forum members. ("You're just bitter...")

If you get in a heated debate based on some performance predictions, you better stand by those predictions yourself or stand aside and let the conversation continue.

The statement was made under certain assumptions and in a certain context, and is correct under those. If you just pull a quote out of context you're bound to get confused and get the wrong impressions. It was made in a thread about Zen, where obviously a lot of info is uncertain and guesstimates. Just like a lot of other topics being discussed on this forum. It is obvious to anyone who is not just trolling or looking for an argument for the sake of arguing.

Example: If Intel says that KabyLake will have 20% better iGPU performance than SkyLake, then are we not allowed to speculate on how that will compare to other iGPU alternatives without also saying that we know that Intel's predictions are accurate and stand by those?

Of course we can still make statements and speculations on how things will compare, if we clearly state about under what assumptions those speculations are made. That does not mean we know for a fact that the assumptions will prove to be accurate. After all, they are assumptions, not fact or proof.

In the case of Zen, there was a long discussion with guesstimates on performance, price etc. My statements were made under those assumptions, and are correct under those, which I have clarified repeatedly.

 

[raindrop]

Hello,
Is there any information on when new Skylake desktop CPUs (like i7 6700T) are hitting the retail outlets?
Thanks.

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Having fun with the 6700K...going to stress test it at 4.7GHz, 1.36V. Using a Corsair H110i cooler on this sucker.

http://valid.x86.fr/3tbf70

(NOT TO HIGH JACK)

Can you remove one of the stick's of memory? Might clock higher, less stress on the IMC= higher clocks, Go for a CPU-Z score :thumbsup:

Anyway very nice!

 

[ShintaiDK]

Hello,
Is there any information on when new Skylake desktop CPUs (like i7 6700T) are hitting the retail outlets?
Thanks.

They are already in the Asian market. I havent seen them in the European yet in stock, just listed. And US may be late this month if not next month.

 

[mohit9206]

They are already in the Asian market. I havent seen them in the European yet in stock, just listed. And US may be late this month if not next month.

Hi do you have any information on how powerful in comparison to discrete gpu and AMD APU is the new Intel HD 530 used in the Skylake i3 and Pentium?
Could it be used for gaming at 720p or better to buy something like A8-7600.
Basically which will provide me better gaming performance A8-7600 or i3-6100 using only integrated graphics?

 

[Fjodor2001]

Hello,
Is there any information on when new Skylake desktop CPUs (like i7 6700T) are hitting the retail outlets?
Thanks.

Last I heard, this new batch of Skylake SKUs should be released on September 1 in Asia, and September 27 in the rest of the world.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Hi do you have any information on how powerful in comparison to discrete gpu and AMD APU is the new Intel HD 530 used in the Skylake i3 and Pentium?
Could it be used for gaming at 720p or better to buy something like A8-7600.
Basically which will provide me better gaming performance A8-7600 or i3-6100 using only integrated graphics?

The i3 is the same as 6600K/6700K. So just look at those reviews. The Pentiums will be a little bit slower (1150 vs 1050Mhz) but else the same IGP too.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Last I heard, this new batch of Skylake SKUs should be released on September 1 in Asia, and September 27 in the rest of the world.

All the regular CPUs are on sales in Europe since september 1st. Only T versions missing so far, but should come very soon.

 

[Fjodor2001]

All the regular CPUs are on sales in Europe since september 1st. Only T versions missing so far, but should come very soon.

Ok, maybe the release dates that were communicated were not so exact for all CPUs and all countries then. Have you found any Skylake Y based products in the stores in Europe too BTW?

 

[mohit9206]

AMD better kiss their graphics performance advantage below $100 goodbye. At $82 MSRP (box) Pentium G4500 is slightly cheaper than their (now discounted) A8 7600 and will be able to match its performance in many titles (minor difference in others). Only difference to Core i7 6700K's iGPU is slightly lower Turbo clocks (~8%). Expect more than double the performance of current Haswell Pentium (adjusting HD Graphics 530 scores).

A8 7600 scores here:
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/622...est-benchmarks-igpu-tomb-raider-1920x1080-low
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Core-...s/Skylake-Test-Core-i7-6700K-i5-6600K-1166741

Intel could easily step up their game below $200 too. They wouldn't even need GT4e, a special edition 2C/4T Core i3 with GT3e (64MB eDRAM) would be pretty small and cheap, and more than enough to match/beat the competition's best APUs at lower prices than Broadwell-K.

Wait so you are saying the Pentium G4500 with Intel hd 530 will beat A8-7600 in integrated graphics gaming? So intel hd 530 is more powerful than A8-7600 gpu?
Because where i live A8-7600 is $115 and the new i3-6100 will be $120.So which will give better performance in integrated graphics?

 

[witeken]

So intel hd 530 is more powerful than A8-7600 gpu?

Well, that's what the benchmarks tell us, don't they. The only concern is that Tom's HW uses DDR4 3200.