According to AT it's already possible on the SuperMicro C7H170-M with H170 chipset. Not sure about the ASUS and AsRock H170 motherboards though.
According to AT it's already possible on the SuperMicro C7H170-M with H170 chipset. Not sure about the ASUS and AsRock H170 motherboards though.Me too.
Even better if MB manufacturers allow BCLK overclocking on cheaper H170 boards.
Hope they don't nerf this...
Yes, it'll be interesting to see what action Intel takes on this, if any.
It kind of wrecks their pricing segmentation strategy. Just as an example, if you can buy e.g. a Core i5-6400 (2.7/3.3 GHz) for $187 and OC it to 4 GHz, what's the point of buying a Core i5-6600 (3.3/3.9 GHz) for $224? Or even a i5-6600K (3.5/3.9GHz) for $243?
That is unless the lesser i5s (e.g. 6400) prove to be much worse overclockers.
t feels like forever ago now but there was a time when you could buy a reasonably affordable Intel processor like the Core i5-750 and overclock the snot out of it to achieve Core i7 level performance. That was 2009, and it was the last time you could overclock a non-K Intel processor or a Core i3 processor of any specification (until now, but bear with us).
In 2011 Sandy Bridge stormed onto the scene, spelling the death of CPU overclocking as we knew it. If you wanted to overclock a Core i5 processor you needed to purchase the 2500K for $216, which was a little more expensive than its equivalent non-K model (about $12 at the time) and a little over 20% more expensive than the most affordable Sandy Bridge Core i5.
...Well dream no more! In overclocking circles it was persisted that BCLK (base clock) overclocking might become a possibility in Skylake processors, but it would be up to motherboard manufacturers to circumvent Intel's restrictions. Last night Asrock contacted us to say it has an updated BIOS that enables this condition and we've jumped at the opportunity to test and confirm this.
Me too.
Even better if MB manufacturers allow BCLK overclocking on cheaper H170 boards.
Celeron G3900 should be a nice little chip to play with. It's clocked at a fairly low 2.8GHz, pushing it above >4GHz means >40% better performance. New king of budget overclocking and worthy Pentium G3258 successor?
Core i3-6100 could become really successful. Looking at Eurogamer and other reviews this little chip is close to FX6300 MT performance at stock and destroys any AMD CPU in terms of per core performance. Jagat previewed what it is capable of with a mild overclock:
At 4.7-4.8GHz on air it will be close to locked Skylake Core i5 level of MT performance.
I don't agree that it will hurt Core i5 sales though. People interested in a 4C/4T CPU will still get one, especially if Core i5-6400 overclocks like its cheaper siblings.
At $250 a 3.4GHz (3.8GHz) 4C/8T Xeon E3-1230 v5 could potentially deliver OCed Core i7-6700K performance (or close to) for $100 less (even more if you choose a cheaper non-Z170 MB).
Yes, that's not so good for those using the iGPU. Where did you read this (I did not find it mentioned in the AT article)? No workaround available?
Though it is worth noting that any BCLK overclock on this scale will result in the integrated graphics being disabled automatically by Intel's VGA driver if it is installed - before installation, the integrated graphics can still function I am being told.
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So the workaround is this: Before installing/updating the iGPU driver, always make sure to restore the BCLK to default setting? Then overclock the BCLK again after iGPU driver update?From Anandtech article:
Though it is worth noting that any BCLK overclock on this scale will result in the integrated graphics being disabled automatically by Intel's VGA driver if it is installed - before installation, the integrated graphics can still function I am being told.
It shouldn't cost a lot more. The recommended price for these chips is similar, but the limited availability could lead to higher prices (Core i7-6560U version).
Microsoft is asking £220 more for the Core i7-6650U next to Core i5-6300U variant of their Surface Pro 4, but we're taking about two closely specced Core i7 models here, so probably less than £100.
How much more performance will the Iris 540 have compared to the HD 520.
When you said 6560u would have slightly better cpu performance, was that just in the case of video editing or will crystalwell boost the cpu performance in non-video transcoding tasks. Will I have an overall faster processor.
Thanks
It's not just video editing. In DRAM heavy scenarios, tasks that need memory bandwidth, you will be able to see the benefits of eDRAM. It might also improve gaming CPU performance, which is why Core i7-5775C sometimes manages to match/beat a higher-clocked Core i7-4790K. Don't expect huge gains though.
As an aside do you happen to know why Apple tend to favour the higher iGPU chips, even in the macbook air line. I can understand the pro's but it's not like Mac Airs are meant to game and possibly not even video edit well. Does Apple use GPU acceleration of some sort in their productivity suite ('Numbers' I'm thinking) or across their OS, if thats even possible.
AnandTech said:Take the power savings you get from all of this machine width, frequency and voltage tuning and you can actually end up with a GPU that uses less power than before, while still delivering incrementally higher performance. It’s a pretty neat idea. Lower cost GPUs tend to be smaller, but here Intel is trading off die area for power - building a larger GPU so it can be lower power, instead of just being higher performance.
Quote: Also considering it's cTDP down is 2W higher and lower base clock 2.2ghz vs 2.5. Will that 2W cause the unit to be significantly warmer in most situations. Thanks
No. Expect a minor difference in idle or CPU intensive usage scenarios. __________________
Do you plan on using cTDP down?Sorry to keep asking you but what do you think the effect will be on battery life if the cTDP down is 2W higher? Web browsing mainly.
We didn’t have a Skylake system immediately on hand to test this ourselves, but ASRock sent over a few screenshots to showcase its base clock overclocking results using an Intel Core i5-6600 on an ASRock Z170 OC Formula motherboard. With ASRock’s setup, the company was able to increase the base clock by roughly 35 percent, to 134.99 MHz. The Core i5-6600 has a base multiplier of 39, giving the CPU a clock speed of 4.45 GHz -- nearly a full gigahertz above the stock 3.3 GHz.
Curiously, the i5-6600 supports Intel’s Turbo Boost technology to increase the CPU multiplier up to 39, which would result in a clock speed of 5264.61 MHz, but the CPU-Z screenshot provided by ASRock shows only a multiplier of 33 and a clock speed of 4.45 GHz, indicating that Turbo Boost is disabled. It isn’t clear why ASRock did this, but it was probably to maintain system stability while overclocking.
Asrock also tested out base clock overclocking on a dual-core Skylake Pentium G4400 CPU and was able to push the BLCK up roughly 27 percent to 127.39 MHz. CPU-Z did not read the processor accurately and listed it as a Core i5-6600, and it also showed a multiplier of 33 and some other information from the Core i5. The processor’s true multiplier value is 25, however, and with a base clock of 127.39, this resulted in a clock speed of 4.2 GHz.
Not a new unlocked Pentium but close enough.
Top notch single-thread performance for the masses.
www.tomshardware.com/news/skylake-base-clock-overclocking,30752.html
Although im very interested to see how this will go, I would hardly call it "for the masses" when the ASRock Z170 OC Formula motherboard cost $240.
Lol, again with the 'exclusive to expensive motherboards' talk. We don't even have a list of models that will support this feature. Might only be some expensive Z170 MBs (what you're hoping for) or a broad spectrum of Z170 and H170 MBs depending on the manufacturer.
It is still a bit early to be calling this one either way.Im hopping for H110 overclocking but your comment was for the $240 Z170 motherboard. IF H110 overclocking is possible then you can say its "for the masses"
Just bought the Skylake i3 6100U NUC6I3SYK NUC with a MX200 500GB 2280 and 2x8GB Crucial SO-DIMM 2133. Delivery is in 2-3 days
Im hopping for H110 overclocking but your comment was for the $240 Z170 motherboard. IF H110 overclocking is possible then you can say its "for the masses"
ShintaiDK said:Just bought the Skylake i3 6100U NUC6I3SYK NUC with a MX200 500GB 2280 and 2x8GB Crucial SO-DIMM 2133. Delivery is in 2-3 days
Just bought the Skylake i3 6100U NUC6I3SYK NUC with a MX200 500GB 2280 and 2x8GB Crucial SO-DIMM 2133. Delivery is in 2-3 days
Very nice. Will you be using it with a 4K display? Can it do 4K@60 over HDMI (2.0?)?
Nice, waiting for your impressions.
Does that include the workforce?Ok, AMD is knocked down on CPU.... I want to see Intel killing nVIDIA on the GPU department....