Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[jihe]

I wouldn't get so excited until I see some 50-100% overclocks. Come one 27%? That's piss weak compared to the golden days of 200% E2140's.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I wouldn't get so excited until I see some 50-100% overclocks. Come one 27%? That's piss weak compared to the golden days of 200% E2140's.

I think that you mean 100%. Double something is 100% more. I had some E2140 CPUs, I remember those. I kept mine OCed for several years until I upgraded. They never skipped a beat, even at 85C.

 

[jihe]

I think that you mean 100%. Double something is 100% more. I had some E2140 CPUs, I remember those. I kept mine OCed for several years until I upgraded. They never skipped a beat, even at 85C.

Hence making them 200%.

 

[MarkizSchnitzel]

Hence making them 200%.

Yes, but that's not 200% INCREASE.

 

[jihe]

Yes, but that's not 200% INCREASE.

Hence a 200% E2140. Is is so hard to understand? What does it mean when you say something is 100%? Would you call the i3 a 27% i3-6100?

 

[AtenRa]

Hence a 200% E2140. Is is so hard to understand? What does it mean when you say something is 100%? Would you call the i3 a 27% i3-6100?

100% increase means 2x or double
200% increase means 3x or triple

edit :

1000MHz + 100% increase = 2000MHz
1000MHz + 200% increase = 3000MHz

 

[jihe]

100% increase means 2x or double
200% increase means 3x or triple

edit :

1000MHz + 100% increase = 2000MHz
1000MHz + 200% increase = 3000MHz

And a 100% E2140 = stock E2140, a 200% E2140 = E2140 running at double. Really? Do I have to explain this?

 

[dahorns]

And a 100% E2140 = stock E2140, a 200% E2140 = E2140 running at double. Really? Do I have to explain this?

To be fair, your original post can give the reader a bit of whiplash:

I wouldn't get so excited until I see some 50-100% overclocks. Come one 27%? That's piss weak compared to the golden days of 200% E2140's.

You reference two separate ways of using percentages in two back-to-back sentences. I'm not surprised people are confused.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well, while we quibble about semantics, the point being lost is that the 2140 shows a very high percentage increase because it is starting out at 1.6ghz. So even with a 100% increase to 3.2ghz, it is below the stock clocks of the G4400.

Edit: Larry and jihe, you are both correct in your math. You are just saying the same thing in a different way. But as I just said, you cant expect a similar % overclock on the G4400 because it starts out at much higher clocks.

 

[MrTeal]

Well, the other pretty monumental difference that we won't see again is overclocking the cheap silicon to close to top level performance. My $75 E2140@3.2GHz lacked some of the cache of the top Conroe dies, but otherwise it wouldn't even lose by much to an overclocked $530 E6700.

Today even if you look at Haswell where we had an unlocked $75 2C/2T Pentium, there's no way to push it to the performance of a $350 4790k. Market segmentation is as much or more by core count now rather than clock speed, so overclocking can only make up a relatively smaller percentage of the gap between a budget and top CPU.

 

[Dresdenboy]

Well, the other pretty monumental difference that we won't see again is overclocking the cheap silicon to close to top level performance. My $75 E2140@3.2GHz lacked some of the cache of the top Conroe dies, but otherwise it wouldn't even lose by much to an overclocked $530 E6700.

Today even if you look at Haswell where we had an unlocked $75 2C/2T Pentium, there's no way to push it to the performance of a $350 4790k. Market segmentation is as much or more by core count now rather than clock speed, so overclocking can only make up a relatively smaller percentage of the gap between a budget and top CPU.

How do power consumption or cooling requirements compare between the contenders?

 

[Sweepr]

And it begins.

ASRock Introduces SKY OC, Overclocking for Non-K Skylake

Model and BIOS version required (L1.xx / L2.xx)
Z170 OC Formula L1.92
Z170 Extreme7+ L2.16
Z170 Extreme6+ L1.82
Z170 Extreme6 L1.82
Z170 Extreme4+ L2.01
Z170 Extreme4 L2.01
Z170 Extreme3 L1.61
Z170M Extreme4 L1.34
Z170 Pro4 L2.83
Z170 Pro4/D3 L1.74
Z170 Pro4S L2.73
Z170M Pro4 L2.23
Z170M Pro4S L2.23
Z170M-ITX/ac L1.83
Z170A-X1/3.1 L1.31
Z170 Professional Gaming i7 L1.14
Z170 Gaming K6+ L1.92
Z170 Gaming K6 L1.92
Z170 Gaming K4 L2.23
Z170 Gaming K4/D3 L1.51
Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac L1.53

www.asrock.com/news/events/SkyOC

Right now it's only available for Z170 motherboards. Good news is, all of them will support BCLK overclocking, including the $99 Z170M Pro4S.

 

[CakeMonster]

Is there anything to gain with BLCK tinkering vs multiplier adjustment on a K cpu?

 

[ShintaiDK]

So the OC argument is down to 100$

 

[ShintaiDK]

Is there anything to gain with BLCK tinkering vs multiplier adjustment on a K cpu?

Nothing since BLCK is decoupled from everything else.

 

[Phynaz]

Im hopping for H110 overclocking but your comment was for the $240 Z170 motherboard. IF H110 overclocking is possible then you can say its "for the masses"

Now available on $99 boards.

 

[Arachnotronic]

The "Intel sux0rz" crowd really got owned here.

 

[Fjodor2001]

SweClockers Quick Review: Asus Zenbook UX305: Skylake Core M7-6Y75 vs Broadwell Core M-5Y10:

http://www.sweclockers.com/test/213...t-broadwell-batteritid-med-asus-zenbook-ux305

Google translated to English:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sweclockers.com%2Ftest%2F21315-snabbtest-intel-skylake-mot-broadwell-batteritid-med-asus-zenbook-ux305&edit-text=

Just a quick review, but shows the battery life improvements:

                 Skylake Core M7-6Y75    Broadwell Core M-5Y10    Difference 
Video playback:  455 min                 309 min                  +47.2%
Web browsing:    472 min                 401 min                  +17.7%

Impressive improvement in battery life during video playback! Decent in web browsing too.

The hardware specs for the two Asus Zenbook UX305 models being compared are very similar except for the CPU, so the results should give a good indication of the battery life improvements achievable only due to different CPUs being used. That is unless they've changed display type to a lower power variant in the newer model, or something else like that which is not indicated in the review.

 

[Arachnotronic]

SweClockers Quick Review: Asus Zenbook UX305: Broadwell Core M-5Y10 vs Skylake Core M7-6Y75

http://www.sweclockers.com/test/213...t-broadwell-batteritid-med-asus-zenbook-ux305

Google translated to English:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sweclockers.com%2Ftest%2F21315-snabbtest-intel-skylake-mot-broadwell-batteritid-med-asus-zenbook-ux305&edit-text=

Just a quick review, but shows the battery life improvements:

                 Skylake Core M7-6Y75    Broadwell Core M-5Y10    Difference 
Video playback:  455 min                 309 min                  +47.2%
Web browsing:    472 min                 401 min                  +17.7%

Impressive improvement in battery life during video playback! Decent in web browsing too.

The hardware specs for the two Asus Zenbook UX305 models being compared are very similar except for the CPU, so the results should give a good indication of the battery life improvements achievable only due to different CPUs being used. That is unless they've changed display type to a lower power variant in the newer model, or something else like that which is not indicated in the review.

Skylake's fixed function video decoder is probably way more efficient than the one found in Broadwell. This has traditionally been a weak spot of Intel's media engines, especially relative to the top ARM SoCs, so it's no wonder they're putting in a lot of effort to improve efficiency there.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Yeah. I'm just hoping they've fixed the main issue with Broadwell Core M too - the problem with sustaining high turbo clocks for longer periods of time without throttling.

I don't think I've seen any review of Skylake Core M covering that aspect yet, showing if it has improved over Broadwell in that regard.

 

[moonbogg]

Now that's what OCing is supposed to be like. You get insane performance at a super low cost. When you feel like you are robbing Intel of a legit profit, then you have a good OC.

 

[Phynaz]

The "Intel sux0rz" crowd really got owned here.

Yes, they did.

But the ADF will move move the goalposts soon :whiste:

 

[AtenRa]

I dont know why you making this an AMD vs Intel, I was the one to post the news here and im very interested on the subject.
In the beginning the rumor was for the most expensive boards, then it was down to all Z170 boards.
Im still waiting to see if they will release bios for the H170/B150 and H110. This is a victory for everyone so get over your AMD vs Intel because I never even mentioned anything of that matter related on the Skylake OC here.

 

[Sweepr]

I see there's a new thread trying to sell the idea that HD 530 is half as fast as the competition (based on rigged tests running 1 year old Intel drivers). Must be damage control because the significant lead AMD once had against Intel back in the Haswell Pentium (GT1 - 10 EUs) days was drastically reduced with Skylake Pentium, which packs the same GT2 iGPU (24 EUs) as its big brothers (at lower clocks).

 

[Phynaz]

I dont know why you making this an AMD vs Intel, I was the one to post the news here and im very interested on the subject.
In the beginning the rumor was for the most expensive boards, then it was down to all Z170 boards.
Im still waiting to see if they will release bios for the H170/B150 and H110. This is a victory for everyone so get over your AMD vs Intel because I never even mentioned anything of that matter related on the Skylake OC here.

Nobody mentioned you by name, you must self identify with the "Intel suxors" crowd.