Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Arachnotronic]

Dang, I've had Sandy Bridge for five freakin' years and it looks like it's finally at the point where the performance boost is enough to justify a rebuild upgrade. Definitely waiting for Intel to fix the teething problems with Skylake. Why do they keep cheaping out on stupid stuff? I might go with a six-core I7-5820K when the time comes unless a Skylake counterpart comes out. Still not in any rush, though. I have never had a build for this long, _ever_. Since I don't game (I'm an Adobe guy) I'm not as sensitive to frame rates and such. I don't think I've commented here for two years! Thanks to everyone for laying out the details here about the motherboard chipsets and such. Now I basically know what I want, and it's probably going to be the Z170 (or its successor) if I go with Skylake down the road. Cheers.

Skylake-E should be out in 1H 2017. If you can wait it out, it should be a beastly chip.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Skylake NUCs are now in stock in Europe.

So if the postal service isn't too heavily drowned in xmas packages, then I will get it before xmas eve

 

[Teabaghead]

Well happy with my choice of a Skylake i3-6100 after help from this forum. Awesome at everything! When i put my heatsink on i was careful not to tighten too much though!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well happy with my choice of a Skylake i3-6100 after help from this forum. Awesome at everything!

I feel the same way about my G4400 SKL Pentium chip. It's the most "snappy" CPU that I've yet used, it seems. I feel, subjectively, that the DDR4 makes a difference compared to Haswell rigs. (This seems to be borne out by the SKL versus HSW memory scaling gaming benchmarks, too.) And I haven't even overclocked it yet!

When i put my heatsink on i was careful not to tighten too much though!

Push-pins... shouldn't give me any issues.

 

[Sweepr]

TweakTown's Ultimate Intel Skylake Overclocking Guide

Great guide by Steven Bassiri.

www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index.html

 

[Arachnotronic]

Well happy with my choice of a Skylake i3-6100 after help from this forum. Awesome at everything! When i put my heatsink on i was careful not to tighten too much though!

Glad you are enjoying your i3 6100! What does the rest of your system look like?

 

[Arachnotronic]

I feel the same way about my G4400 SKL Pentium chip. It's the most "snappy" CPU that I've yet used, it seems. I feel, subjectively, that the DDR4 makes a difference compared to Haswell rigs. (This seems to be borne out by the SKL versus HSW memory scaling gaming benchmarks, too.) And I haven't even overclocked it yet!


Push-pins... shouldn't give me any issues.

What's interesting is that the G4400 runs at 3.3GHz. Assuming ~10% uplift in performance/clock over Haswell, that's equivalent to a 3.63GHz Haswell. No wonder it is snappy!

 

[dark zero]

TweakTown's Ultimate Intel Skylake Overclocking Guide

Great guide by Steven Bassiri.

www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index.html

Skylake? It applies to every single current chip who can be OCed. This is the same principle used on AM1+ on non K OC

It should be renamed into the Bible of OCing.

Amen

 

[Sweepr]

Skylake Pentium and Core i3 review from russian website 3DNews:

Skylake inexpensive: a review of Core i3-6320, i3-6100 and Pentium G4500

Here we can see that Skylake Core i3 easily outclasses AMD APUs when it comes to CPU performance, even the Pentium does pretty well against the more expensive A8-7670K.

Actually the most interesting part are the gaming tests, especially in light of other recent thread. Let's see how HD 530 stacks up when paired with (more) up to date drivers and decent (yet not expensive) DDR4-2666:

Ouch, quite a bit different from this.

www.3dnews.ru/924775

Basically Skylake GT2 graphics provide slightly better performance than A6-7400K. While it's not as fast the more expensive APUs, it closed the gap quite a bit compared to Haswell while the CPU performance lead increased (especially Core i3s). A8-7600's integrated graphics are 25-40% faster than the similarly priced Pentium G4500 based on the tests above, but it's generally slower in CPU tasks and doesn't look like the best option to pair a dGPU with (more below).

 

[Sweepr]

Discrete GPU Gaming Performance

Power consumption under load:

 

[Sweepr]

Just saw this:

Biostar MBs will allow BCLK overclocking too.

Dell refreshes Latitude 5000 Series with Intel SkyLake and 17-hour battery life

...Dell states the new Latitude 5000 devices offer up to 17 hours of abttery life. Additionally, the company is offering a USB Type-C connector for teh 15-inch variant. For those wondering, the Latitude 5000 series comes with TPM support, Smart Card reader, NFC Smart Card reader, as well as an optional fingerprint reader. The new devices are already available in North America, and the price starts at $999.

http://microsoft-news.com/dell-refr...s-with-intel-skylake-and-17-hour-battery-life

Crazy to see how much battery life improved since SB/IB days.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Just saw this:
Biostar MBs will allow BCLK overclocking too.

I wasn't able to make out the numbers in that image. Do you have a link instead?

 

[ShintaiDK]

I just got the Skylake i3 6100U NUC today (NUC6I3SYK).

Crucial 2x8GB SO-DIMM DDR4 2133 and a Crucial MX200 M2 2280 500GB SSD as well.

 

[NTMBK]

Cute little computer! What's the noise like under load?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Cute little computer! What's the noise like under load?

Not that far, just going to startup now and install Windows 10 Pro

However the startup with 100% fan, sounds like a laptop. But relatively quiet one. When its running you can barely hear a thing

 

[AtenRa]

Do you have any games to test ??

 

[ShintaiDK]

Do you have any games to test ??

I do have steam and games. But its not the plan, so consider it no. Windows 10+media portal will be the install. Some tiny benchmarks here and there can be run.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I already use a Pro magic Mini keyboard like this:

However this is rather interesting, if you want a remote keyboard+mouse for your HTPC.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/intel-remote-keyboard/id1001394189?mt=8
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.intel.remotekeyboard&hl=en

Mixed with this:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24967/Intel-Remote-Keyboard-Host-App

Smartphone/Tablet as keyboard+mouse.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 6100U is able to idle at 400Mhz at 0.5V

 

[VirtualLarry]

The 6100U is able to idle at 400Mhz at 0.5V

That's pretty amazing. Is that because they produced the chips with a low-power process, rather than a high-performance one?

 

[phillyman36]

I just got the Skylake i3 6100U NUC today (NUC6I3SYK).

Crucial 2x8GB SO-DIMM DDR4 2133 and a Crucial MX200 M2 2280 500GB SSD as well.

I really hate you lol Just kidding congrats
Still deciding on when to order myself one.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Dont think so. At 2.3Ghz the voltage is much more normal.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I really hate you lol Just kidding congrats
Still deciding on when to order myself one.

Or when you can order one. Hohoho

Thanks!

I will try post some small benches and info as time allows it. Windows 10 is busy with the 1511 update currently.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Old vs new HTPC. i5 661 3.6Ghz turbo 3.33Ghz base clock at 87W vs the flat 2.3Ghz i3 6100U at 15W.

CPU-Z 1.74 Bench:
ST
1196 vs 1149

MT
2426 vs 2602

 

[dark zero]

Not joking or trolling...
Intel in fact has potential on the mobile world. I own an Asus Zenfone 2 and is amazing. The problem is that Android is not the OS suited for that beast.

Its Windows Mobile 10. However the problem of that OS is that their interface is not that keyboard friendly. So... why they don't make their return to the physical keyboard and a mini trackpad in order to make it a more professional oriented device? I would buy it since it will save me a lot of time compared to touchscreen ones. And also would be somehow gamer friendly. Since those physical keyboards can be configured as gaming controls. It would be awesome for Windows Mobile 10.

Now returning to the big iGPU part.
Definately Intel iGPU results for Iris 550 were far better than expected (near 940M levels which means GTX750 levels), so definately Iris Pro will put them into the GTX 750 Ti levels. That's insane and epic to watch. Even some casuals will start to doubt the use of dGPU with this new iGPU. Intel finally shown potential. If they want to dominate, they need to partner with some game companies and prepare their framework like Gameworks in order to defy nVIDIA in that. And deliver constant driver graphics like the rest of the group.