Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[RampantAndroid]

Always match the vintage of the OS to the vintage of the hardware. Win 7 is 2009/2010. Use 2010-2012 hardware if you want smooth sailing. Skylake is this year. What else was released this year? Win 10. Its like using Win 95 with a 5960X. Not a good idea.

Also, I suspect Win10 and Skylake got a lot of time together in development. The new Surfaces are Skylake, right?

 

[LTC8K6]

Why Waterfox when 64bit Firefox is out now?

 

[frozentundra123456]

Dont complain about drivers as long as you use Windows 7.

I have a lot more problems with drivers in Win 10 than I ever had with Win 7. I actually reverted back to Win 7 for a while because Win 10 was so buggy. I know you think Intel can do no wrong, but seriously I think a company with 80% of the market can be expected to provide drivers for an OS with as many users as Win 7. In fact, I bet Win 7 still has a lot more users than Win 10.

 

[Burpo]

Windows 10 is here to stay.. Deal with it..

 

[frozentundra123456]

Happy new year to you too.

 

[jpiniero]

Dont complain about drivers as long as you use Windows 7.

wat

Corporations aren't even going to begin evaluating Windows 10 until well into this year, and then it's going to take some time for any deployment to happen. If you are implying that Skylake isn't fully supported with Windows 7 then Intel's got serious problems.

Not to mention, Windows 10 is superior. Heck, I don't get the gripe with 8 either.

Metro's the problem. There's also the spyware to deal with in Windows 10 and that MS is forcing users to download and install all updates.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Also, I suspect Win10 and Skylake got a lot of time together in development. The new Surfaces are Skylake, right?

MS and Intel even say Skylake and Windows 10 is made for one another.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I have a lot more problems with drivers in Win 10 than I ever had with Win 7. I actually reverted back to Win 7 for a while because Win 10 was so buggy. I know you think Intel can do no wrong, but seriously I think a company with 80% of the market can be expected to provide drivers for an OS with as many users as Win 7. In fact, I bet Win 7 still has a lot more users than Win 10.

You miss the point that Skylake platform isn't fully supported in Windows 7. You need Windows 8/10.

 

[ShintaiDK]

wat

Corporations aren't even going to begin evaluating Windows 10 until well into this year, and then it's going to take some time for any deployment to happen. If you are implying that Skylake isn't fully supported with Windows 7 then Intel's got serious problems.



Metro's the problem. There's also the spyware to deal with in Windows 10 and that MS is forcing users to download and install all updates.

A lot of corporations already moved away from Windows 7. Including my own workplace. Also there is no way you are getting Windows 7 on a Skylake tablet/2in1. This time its the end users and not corporations sitting it out. Skylake + Windows 7 wouldn't pass validation anyway in a corporate environment. And if you create a ticket at MS with the setup you get rejected.

Else we could also argue that Skylake have to support XP.

 

[PPB]

If intel cant make a proper igp driver for windows 7, they should probably quit getting igps into their cpus altogether. The other 2brands have far longer legacy considerations. Heck why am even talking of windows 7 as legacy. It is probably the most used or second most used OS right now. Dont get the usual suspects ignorance bother you with your OS decision.

That browser, on the other hand..... Lol

Ps: lol, putting w7 in the same level as xp.... Internet shouldnt be that cheap in some places, really.

 

[ShintaiDK]

You confuse legacy and latest HW.

Using old hardware on latest OS, or using old os on latest hardware.

How is non GCN support for AMD again?

And there is always virtualization for legacy OS needs.

 

[piesquared]

Is Intel's Isis pro any different than when it first emerged? Are they running out of Billions to support last year's creations?

 

[Magic Carpet]

How is non GCN support for AMD again?

I recently played around with my old HD 4850 to find out that the last officially supported OS was Windows 7. Okay, fair enough, this dog has seen better days.

But what the hell with GCN ? AMD dropping support for any Microsoft OS older than Windows 8.1.

Yes, GCN is no longer officially supported even on Windows 8.0, let alone Windows 7.

Larry, maybe you need to go back to AMD APUs. The grass is surely greener

 

[VirtualLarry]

I recently played around with my old HD 4850 to find out that the last officially supported OS was Windows 7. Okay, fair enough, this dog has seen better days.

But what the hell with GCN ? AMD dropping support for any Microsoft OS older than Windows 8.1.

Yes, GCN is no longer officially supported even on Windows 8.0, let alone Windows 7.

Larry, maybe you need to go back to AMD APUs. The grass is surely greener

Where do you see that? AMD no longer supports Windows 8.0, but they still fully support Windows 7, 8.1, and 10.0 for their GCN architecture hardware.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Where do you see that? AMD no longer supports Windows 8.0, but they still fully support Windows 7, 8.1, and 10.0 for their GCN architecture hardware.

I stand corrected, they just axed the Windows 8.0 support. Nvidia still lists Windows 8.0 as supported, though. Hell, some Geforce GTX 9x0 SKUs are still officially supported even on Windows XP SP3. If you want the best GPU drivers support, you know where to go.

But yeah, give it some time. I am sure those bugs are going to be eventually resolved on Windows 7. Or do what I suggested earlier with a separate SSD OS install to see if it solves anything for you, if you don't want to wait.

 

[jpiniero]

A lot of corporations already moved away from Windows 7. Including my own workplace.

A lot, I don't think so. It was the same way with Vista, 8 was pretty much ignored. If your company is using 8 they are in a very small minority. We'll have to see about 10. But if you are telling me that Skylake won't be validated against 7... Intel's got problems because there is no guarantee that 10 will get acceptance.

 

[dark zero]

A lot of corporations already moved away from Windows 7. Including my own workplace.

You think that, but the reality is different as hell. In the 3rd world, they even managed to move from Windows 98.... to at least Windows 7 or Linux

 

[Fjodor2001]

Windows 7 still has around 50% OS market share (of the total OS market, including Linux and Mac). If Skylake doesn't properly support Win 7, I'd say Intel has a problem.

 

[Burpo]

Windows 7 still has around 50% OS market share (of the total OS market, including Linux and Mac).

Proof/Links?

 

[III-V]

If intel cant make a proper igp driver for windows 7, they should probably quit getting igps into their cpus altogether. The other 2brands have far longer legacy considerations. Heck why am even talking of windows 7 as legacy. It is probably the most used or second most used OS right now. Dont get the usual suspects ignorance bother you with your OS decision.

That browser, on the other hand..... Lol

Ps: lol, putting w7 in the same level as xp.... Internet shouldnt be that cheap in some places, really.

Talk is cheap. Gotta love armchair critics.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Proof/Links?

https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx

 

[DrMrLordX]

Talk is cheap. Gotta love armchair critics.

He's kinda right, though. Win7 is quite common.

That being said, how common is Win7 on Skylake hardware? That's the relevant question. Answer: not very.

 

[III-V]

He's kinda right, though. Win7 is quite common.

That being said, how common is Win7 on Skylake hardware? That's the relevant question. Answer: not very.

It's not a question of "can" or "can't" as he portrays it. Apparently he doesn't understand how capitalism works. It's Intel's job to please their shareholders, even if it means sodomizing their customers.

 

[ShintaiDK]

A lot, I don't think so. It was the same way with Vista, 8 was pretty much ignored. If your company is using 8 they are in a very small minority. We'll have to see about 10. But if you are telling me that Skylake won't be validated against 7... Intel's got problems because there is no guarantee that 10 will get acceptance.

Windows 7 doesn't work on tablets/2in1. What do you think businesses install there? Do you think they reinstall Surface Books with Windows 7?

Its no different on the Mac side, what to use latest office? Yosemite is the minimum.

o365 alone makes a lot of companies move if they didn't already.

 

[jpiniero]

Windows 7 doesn't work on tablets/2in1. What do you think businesses install there? Do you think they reinstall Surface Books with Windows 7?.

Well no, but they are ignoring Surface in general.

That being said, how common is Win7 on Skylake hardware? That's the relevant question. Answer: not very.

That's a fair point. I imagine most are still using Haswell Refresh at this point, and if the move is made to go to 10, going to Skylake at the same time makes sense. But there's no guarantee that 10 is going to get any kind of corporate adoption so unless Intel wants to sell Haswell Refresh until 2020 Intel can't just abandon 7 so quickly even if MS is trying their hardest to force 10 down people's throats.