Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Sweepr]

AnandTech: Prices of Unlocked Intel Core i7-6700K, i5-6600K Continue to Drop

...The availability of the Core i7-6700K (BX80662I76700K) improved this month. All major outlets monitored by NowInStock, including Amazon, B&H Photo, NCIXUS and Newegg had the chip in stock for $364 – $408. BestBuy lists the CPU for $409.99, can ship it in two days, but does not provide any store pickup options, which indicates that it does not have the product everywhere in its locations. Back in December, only Newegg had the Core i7-6700K in stock, so, it is evident that the U.S. retailers are getting more units through distribution.

Amazon lists the Intel Core i7-6700K for $373 and the chip is in stock. According to CamelCamelCamel, a price-tracker that monitors Amazon and its partners, the Core i7-6700K was available briefly for $349.99 (i.e., at its MSRP) earlier this month and for $363.95 earlier this week. Moreover, some of Amazon’s partners even sold the part for $340 on March 23. Last month Amazon listed the Core i7-6700K for $365, but it was not in stock. By contrast, it is possible to get it from Amazon now, albeit at a higher price-point

Starting from late Q3 2015, Intel has been gradually increasing production of its CPUs using 14 nm process technology. The company began to produce 14 nm processors in its Fab 24 manufacturing facility in Leixlip, Ireland in Q3 FY2015, in addition to its D1D, D1C and D1X fabs in Hillsboro, Oregon. Yields of the CPUs most likely have improved since their introduction in August as well as turning more wafers into desktop parts, leading to larger shipments of higher-end Skylake-S products. As a result, prices of the Core i5-6600K and the Core i7-6700K are decreasing.

www.anandtech.com/show/10192/price-check-intel-core-i7-6700k-i5-6600k


AnandTech: The Razer Blade Stealth Review: Razer Takes On The Ultrabook

Nice Skylake-U implementation right here.

www.anandtech.com/show/10188/the-razer-blade-stealth-ultrabook-review


EVGA launched their first notebook (SC17), based on Core i7-6820HK (overclockable) + Geforce GTX980M 8GB.

www.evga.com/articles/00982/evga-sc17-laptop

 

[monstercameron]

feel gross being in an intel thread...anyway, is there any details on skull canyons release date?

 

[jpiniero]

feel gross being in an intel thread...anyway, is there any details on skull canyons release date?

May

 

[Rngwn]

The i7 6660U Showed up in the ARK.

http://ark.intel.com/th/products/91169/Intel-Core-i7-6660U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz

Only 200Mhz bump in the base clock, same turbo frequency as 6650U.

 

[Kallogan]

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-6567U-Notebook-Processor.149848.0.html

a sony convertible with a 28W cpu with skylake GT3e

Man this thing is as fast as my old 45W 750m GT

Total power gaming power consumption is only 40W, 2800+ in 3dmark11

i bet undervolting cpu + egpu with intel XTU can help a lot

But Priceyyy

that core i3 has the same gpu :

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i3-6167U-Notebook-Processor.149853.0.html

sweet little beast

can't wait for GT4e

 

[Sweepr]

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-6567U-Notebook-Processor.149848.0.html

a sony convertible with a 28W cpu with skylake GT3e

Man this thing is as fast as my old 45W 750m GT
But Priceyyy
that core i3 has the same gpu :

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i3-6167U-Notebook-Processor.149853.0.html

sweet little beast
can't wait for GT4e

NotebookCheck's Vaio Z Flip Review (Core i7-6567U - Iris 550)

www.notebookcheck.net/Vaio-Z-Flip-VJZ13BA11L-Convertible-Review.161637.0.html


Nice find Kallogan.
Looks like Skylake-U GT3e needed the extra TDP to shine.

- On par with DDR3-based Geforce GT940M @ Bioshock Infinite and Rise of the Tomb Raider
- Close to / on par with custom GDDR5-based 'Geforce GT940M' from Surface Book @ Tomb Raider, Metro: Last Light and Thief
- On par with Geforce GT950M @ Metal Gear Solid V (1366x768 Medium)!

Skylake's Iris 550 is more than twice as fast as Broadwell's Iris 6100 in the 3 games where they were compared (at the same 14nm node and 28W TDP). Impressive.

Total power gaming power consumption is only 40W, 2800+ in 3dmark11
i bet undervolting cpu + egpu with intel XTU can help a lot

In comparison, here's your regular Core i5-6200U with a Geforce GT940M:

The Aspire doesn't draw a lot of power. During idle, we recorded 11 watts or less, which is certainly acceptable for an ULV CPU. During the stress test with both the CPU and GPU operating at their respective maximums, the power requirement jumped to 58 watts. The Toshiba Satellite, which is equipped with the same hardware, draws an almost imperceptible amount less.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Seriously, I am going to pay 2000.00 for a notebook with a 1440p screen and play at 768p, medium??

Even then, 2 of the 7 games tested are not even playable.

Or am I looking at the wrong data? Just followed the link given. Am I missing something?

Those results seem terrible for 28 watt tdp with edram. Maybe at 15 watts it would be ok, but I would have expected much more at 28 watts.

 

[Z15CAM]

Give me a Skylake 14 Nm Low voltage Exon V3 with 44 cores with hyper threading on a X Platform but unfortunately, I can't afford it.

What are your needs Vs what you can afford comparing a Mc Learn to a Volvo.

Personally I'm a TR6 guy and ride a Breganze 750 SF ;o)

 

[Sweepr]

Seriously, I am going to pay 2000.00 for a notebook with a 1440p screen and play at 768p, medium??

Even then, 2 of the 7 games tested are not even playable.

The alternative would be Skylake-U GT2, considerably slower. Do not confuse gaming laptops with premium convertibles.

Or am I looking at the wrong data? Just followed the link given. Am I missing something?

Those results seem terrible for 28 watt tdp with edram. Maybe at 15 watts it would be ok, but I would have expected much more at 28 watts.

If we believe the synthetics it almost matches 65W Core i7-5775C at less than half the TDP, while outperforming its predecessor by 2x in actual games. And you can bet it's faster than the 15W parts in gaming sessions thanks to the extra thermal headroom.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I was looking at quite different data from the link in notebook check. The graphs in your post did not show up for some reason. Still though, with 28 watt TDP and edram I would have expected maybe lowest settings at 1080p. Your graphs do not show the new Tomb Raider, and Thief is still not really playable at 768p. I know it is not a gaming notebook, but for the price, one could buy a thousand dollar ultrabook *and* one of the 800.00 Dell gaming laptops with a full on quad and 960m.

I thought Slylake GT2 in mobile was getting close to or ahead of AMD in igpu, much less gt3e. But I think Carizzo given a 28 watt TDP (without edram and on 28nm) might still beat gt3e.

 

[Sweepr]

I thought Slylake GT2 in mobile was getting close to or ahead of AMD in igpu, much less gt3e. But I think Carizzo given a 28 watt TDP (without edram and on 28nm) might still beat gt3e.

It wouldn't. Vaio Z Flip is faster than AMD's Reference Platform with a 35W FX-8800P @ 3DMark 11. From an actual design win (Lenovo Y700):

Fire Strike Standard Graphics
Core i7-6567U: 1638
FX-8800P: 1121

Other scores available at NBC. And remmember at 15W TDP AMD has a 25-35% lead in synthetics (fastest Carrizo with dual-channel) but when it comes to games they're at best on par/slower than HD 520. Also there's a CPU performance gap to overcome.

- CB11.5 Single-thread
Core i7-6567U: 1.63 pts
FX-8800P: 0.98 pt

- CB11.5 Multi-thread
Core i7-6567U: 4.02 pts
FX-8800P: 3.39 pts

 

[jpiniero]

That really shouldn't be too surprising since the constructor cores are so awful and power hungry and GCN is just power hungry. Assuming Zen isn't a complete disaster technology wise the Zen+Polaris APUs should be much faster in games than anything Skylake or Kabylake, even at limited TDP and nothing to help the bandwidth.

Whether AMD would be able to get decent design wins is of course an open question.

 

[IntelUser2000]

That really shouldn't be too surprising since the constructor cores are so awful and power hungry and GCN is just power hungry. Assuming Zen isn't a complete disaster technology wise the Zen+Polaris APUs should be much faster in games than anything Skylake or Kabylake, even at limited TDP and nothing to help the bandwidth.

Whether AMD would be able to get decent design wins is of course an open question.

That assumes a lot of things. With Moore's Law like scaling drawing to an end, and process advancements becoming riskier, Intel's way of doing it, by successively making it better is probably going to turn out better too. Not all at once like AMD has been doing.

With an APU, its not just about graphics. You need a good process, a fast interconnect, performant memory controller, fast CPU, and excellent power management. And those are things where arguably Intel is top in the industry.

Right now with Gen 9, Intel fixed what I call "nagging" performance issues. With Gen 7 and Gen 8, it performed competitively, but fell behind on higher settings and resolutions. Gen 9 does significantly better using those settings than Gen 8 does.

Gen 9 also has most feature complete DX12 support(aside from one feature which is asynchronous compute) ahead of AMD/Nvidia's top discrete parts.

They are catching up, but not in a way that's noticeable. Now the hardware is excellent, they need to do something about those drivers. That's probably more bureaucratic than anything though.

 

[monstercameron]

May

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Compone...8&qid=1459634644&sr=1-2&keywords=skull+canyon

amazon listing, its so pricey.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yea, you could buy a complete desktop for that price. Not to mention that by the time you add the rest of the components and an OS, it would be 1k.

To be honest, I dont really get the point of the NUC formfactor. It isnt like it is really portable anyway. And you still have to have all the regular cables and an external monitor. And it still takes up space on a desk. Who cares if it it one inch high or 20?

Now if they would put that cpu with iris 580 in a laptop for 700.00, that would be a deal.

 

[jpiniero]

Yea, you could buy a complete desktop for that price. Not to mention that by the time you add the rest of the components and an OS, it would be 1k.

To be honest, I dont really get the point of the NUC formfactor. It isnt like it is really portable anyway. .

Funny, I was going to say that Skull Canyon looks pretty tiny, possibly too tiny for it's 45W TDP. You're supposed to mount it on the back of your monitor.

$650 isn't terrible given that the 6770hq's tray price is $434 plus you get Alpine Ridge and WiFi. But you are right that it is pricey.

 

[Brainonska511]

n/m

 

[TeknoBug]

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Compone...8&qid=1459634644&sr=1-2&keywords=skull+canyon

amazon listing, its so pricey.

That listing looks like a bunch of stuff slapped together.

 

[dark zero]

Oh..

Is an Alien... wait... seems that is a Alienware without the screen part.

Still, waiting for their benchmarks...

Sadly for Intel is late since Polaris and Pascal is near to be released.

 

[Rngwn]

Oh..

Is an Alien... wait... seems that is a Alienware without the screen part.

Still, waiting for their benchmarks...

Sadly for Intel is late since Polaris and Pascal is near to be released.

Intel might have anticipated about incoming Polaris and Pascal so they advertised about eGPU. However, the GT4e should better hold its own against at least a 1040M (which is unlikely) for whatever reasons, or they better have a good answer to this in KBL (which is not likely either).

 

[Sweepr]

Intel Skull Canyon NUC6i7KYK available for pre-order at Newegg

6th generation Intel Core i7-6770HQ processor (2.6 GHz up to 3.5 GHz Turbo, Quad Core 6MB cache, 45W TDP)
Dual-channel DDR4 SODIMMs, 32GB maximum
Intel Iris Pro graphics 580
One Thunderbolt 3 port , One Display Port via USB-C
Four total USB 3.0 ports with one SDXC slot
Two M.2 slots with flexible support for a 42 or 80 mm SATA or PCIe SSD
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 and Bluetooth* 4.2
Consumer Infrared sensor on the front panel
Support for user-replaceable 3rd party lids

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10487648&PID=1800524&SID=

$649, ETA May 12th. Barely a month till launch.


And the new generation of non-K OCing motherboards from ASRock will go on sale on April 8th. Press release here:

Asrock Quietly Brings Back Non-Z170 Non-K CPU Overclocking Motherboards

External clock generator that can provide a stable frequency and the clock "Hyper BCLK Engine" equipped with the new products of the LGA1151 motherboard.

Both adopted a 10 phase power circuit of digital control, Kingston, Samsung, to improve the memory latency at the time of DDR4 memory installed in the Hynix-made chips "DDR4 Non-Z OC" support. Also to adopt, such as high durability to protect the circuit in the vicinity of "12K Platinum capacitor" and I / O, "I / O armor", resistant to moisture "high density glass fiber PCB".

www.gdm.or.jp/pressrelease/2016/0405/157521

 

[Z15CAM]

Gotta admit Skylake makes me itch but running a SB i7 2700K between 4.8 and 5.2Ghz - Skylake doesn't impress me yet.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Intel Skull Canyon NUC6i7KYK available for pre-order at Newegg

Do they make a model without the ugly skull? Not every Intel customer appreciates Intel's fascination with the symbology of death.

 

[Z15CAM]

Someone give me an Intel X-Platform with a Skylake Exon 32 Core V4 ;o)

 

[coercitiv]

Do they make a model without the ugly skull? Not every Intel customer appreciates Intel's fascination with the symbology of death.

It's been already covered (pun intended): the unit comes with two lids.

Ships with two lids – one with a skull logo, one plain mate black (Support for user-replaceable third-party lids)