I have been waiting for a socket version of the 6785R. I must be the only person out there looking for one. I was waiting for one since Iris was announced. The Broadwell 5775C was released far to late. Plus, I was hoping for an updated version to use DDR4's higher bandwidth.
Intel seems to have put the kaibosh on big iGPU + eDRAM on the desktop platform and seems to have slowed it down everywhere else. Really disappointing.
I'm not saying they aren't, but the two are redundant. 4+2 U is 15 or 28 W. What point is a 18W 4+2 H model (or vice-versa)?
Edit: The article seems to agree with me, at least with Google Translate.
Iris Pro in general is dead. Iris might be dead soon enough too. Skylake-X might have edram but you'll have to pay of course.
They can't stay with 24 EUs forever, right?There is no indication that Intel will drop Iris, the other way around actually it exists in KBL/CFL Roadmaps. Iris Pro GT4e was useless with Skylake, but you can never know what Intel plans for the future, especially the 10nm future.
There is no indication that Intel will drop Iris, the other way around actually it exists in KBL/CFL Roadmaps. Iris Pro GT4e was useless with Skylake, but you can never know what Intel plans for the future, especially the 10nm future.
It really looks like they are giving up which would be consistent with the cost cutting going on. The 4+3e Coffee Lake might be the last one, and I imagine it'll be hard to find in an OEM machine.
As I said there is no indication. Why is there a KBL and even CFL GT3e in the Roadmap when they gave up. You don't know. We only can say that they gave up for Skylake GT4e on desktop.
Iris Pro in general is dead. Iris might be dead soon enough too.
Strictly speaking GT3e is actually a simple "Iris" even since GT4e appearance. So he is still wrong, just less so.You don't get it.
Bring facts or shut up. You should learn how to speak without evidence. I believe your mistake is also that your view is narrowed to GT4e for H and C. Objectively it is very unlikely at the moment that Intel drops GT3e for U and that's Iris Pro as well. And you are going even further saying GT3 might be dead, there is absolutely no indication.
And you are going even further saying GT3 might be dead, there is absolutely no indication.
Iris Pro GT4e was useless with Skylake.
Actually, 28W GT3e U model SKU is present on laptop list of every big OEM nowadays..Yes. Beyond Apple the 28 W GT3e U models are pretty much not being used as it is; and the die size of the Coffee Lake 4+3e is probably pretty close to the 6+2. I think OEMs would want the extra cores.
If Apple is dumping Intel there might not be any customers.
Yea, it is too bad, although I am not a fan on anything more than a minimal igpu on the desktop.
Would seem like a place for Iris/IrisPro in mobile, if they could make it powerful enough.
The new 14/16 nm dgpus, will raise the bar a lot even in mobile though, since they are very power efficient. Still, I was hoping for a quad core with a powerful igpu to eventually become standard in larger notebooks.
Kind of reminds me of the struggle to get into phones. Tons of money thrown at it, and seemingly lots of potential, but ultimately pretty much came to nothing.
Have to wonder what will happen with Apple though. Will they finally go to their own chips or an AMD Zen APU? Would seem quite a blow, both financially and prestige wise to intel.
What I meant was that AMD, with a lot less resources and a huge process handicap is still very competitive in the igpu part of their cpus. Additionally, even with edram, igpus are still far from being competitive with low/midrange discrete cards. Finally, availability of anything more than the basic GT2 is limited to very high priced models.And that's exactly what we're getting 4+2 and 6+2 for desktops and high performance notebooks that will use dGPUs.
2+3e and 4+3e are mobile-exclusive parts, so Intel is doing what you are saying.
In larger notebooks you either need the gaming performance, in which case you get a dGPU or you don't need it and GT2 is fine. Iris Pro sold very poorly, which is why the 4+4e SKU was replaced by a 6+2 SKU.
Not at all comparable. iGPU has been a ridiculous financial success for Intel -- it helped keep their average selling prices pretty much stable since Sandy Bridge; before then.
4+3e for 13-inch MacBook Pro, 6+2 coupled with dGPU for 15-inch MacBook Pro. Pretty simple, don't see why Zen or a custom CPU would come into play.
What I meant was that AMD, with a lot less resources and a huge process handicap is still very competitive in the igpu part of their cpus.
Intel seems to have put the kaibosh on big iGPU + eDRAM on the desktop platform and seems to have slowed it down everywhere else. Really disappointing.