Yeah, that's what i meant, in the past we had Wolfdale E0, Nehalem D0 that were awesome and IMO larger steps than Kabylake and yet they were given "for free"
Steppings are also derivative process nodes. But this is more than a small update because they did do pretty decent changes, relatively speaking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepping_level
My point put simply, the CPU is running faster with data calculations then the memory speed latency can keep up with, however the CPU can't call for all the Data and instruction ahead of time very well using prediction to utilize more than the 64bit width of system memory. Think about what I have been explaining, it is the basics of x86 processors. That is why there is little improvement with more memory channels than the single 64bit memory channel.@wingman04 , The processor being 64 Bit has nothing to do with how much data it can handle at once.
Nothing to do.
There are DSP's which are 16 Bit and access much more data than an Intel CPU.
Again, CPU's has muli layer memory hierarchy.
As closer we get to the CPU the faster and smaller the memory is.
The problem, since it gets smaller (Register smaller than L1, smaller than L2, smaller than L3 which is smaller than memory).
Yet if the data being processed is large while the operation on the data is simple (Which the CPU can handle using its full power) we're bottlenecked by the main memory system.
This is why faster DDR4 are showing gains in SkyLake.
Yet since the speed can't be multiplied by 2 it would be easier to double the number of channels.
Again, whether the CPU is 64 Bit or 32 Bit doesn't have any affect on how the data throughput.
It only means how are the memory address is.
My point put simply, the CPU is running faster with data calculations then the memory speed latency can keep up with, however the CPU can't call for all the Data and instruction ahead of time very well using prediction to utilize more than the 64bit width of system memory. Think about what I have been explaining, it is the basics of x86 processors. That is why there is little improvement with more memory channels than the single 64bit memory channel.
Newsflash.
ASML to invest $1B for 25% in Carl Zeiss subsidiary to propel the development of high NA (= numerical aperture) EUV.
The way optics work is that your effective wavelength is physical wavelength divided by the numerical aperture. Immersion lithography has NA=1.35, which is as high as it can get for lithography. It used to be a lot lower, but improved steadily over time, last jump was with immersion lithography from 1 to 1.35 (at 32nm).
Right now, EUV NA is 0.33. It used to be 0.25 a few system iterations ago. Now they want to propel it to >0.5.
Right now 0.4 is the next in the pipeline afaik.
https://www.asml.com/press/press-re...ography-due-in-early-2020s/en/s5869?rid=54430
Edit: And ASML has paused their share buybacks for this. What a great and lofty decision! Intel should also stop wasting their money on these nonsensical costs.
Except that we already know that there is a big difference between HD530 and HD630 that is worth having.i5 7500K review
http://diy.pconline.com.cn/851/8515185_all.html
What you see is what you get: 7% faster transistors, 7-8% better performance .
~No IGP difference.
Power: 3W idle more.
Idle to load delta: 3% more.
Except that we already know that there is a big difference between HD530 and HD630 that is worth having.
So basically a factory overclocked Skylake with 0 IPC improvement.
Yes, mostly that.Are you referring to video decode/encode support or something else?
Kaby Lake was always an optimization of SL though, so I'm not sure why anyone expected a big IPC increase.
Intel even said that it was the same exact CPU core and yet people keep expecting an IPC increase...
I did not say multi channel memory was useless. 64bit CPU-----------64bit CPU< 128bit memory=========128bit, memory Buffering by CL1CL2CL3 and data prediction can only go so far.It depends largely on workload. While it's true that there is probably still more legacy code out there, than SSE/AVX/AVX2 code, that doesn't mean that larger than a 64-bit memory channel is useless. The increase in performance with Synthetic benchmarks can be noticed and measured.
Especially with iGPU graphics performance.
Show me a real life workload multi channel memory makes a significant difference?It depends largely on workload.
Dunno. Every time a Kaby rumor pops up there is always someone who turns out was expecting anything more than a minor process change.What hype?
Well, if Pentium is 3.8, then 7100 is certain to be at least 3.9.Have to figure that Pentium 4620 is going be closer to $100. Also that would be odd if the i3 7300 was 4.0 Ghz, unless there's a 7100 that's 3.9 Ghz.
How close are we to seeing these released?
Wow that soon already? Is it same socket Z170 is s1151 or all new socket?
Wow thats completely crazy... I wasn't even expecting it till late spring, early summer time.
Show me a real life workload multi channel memory makes a significant difference?