Okay, I see what you did there.
You photoshopped the Lenovo disclaimer away.
no spoilers, apparently
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Based on an OEM Roadmap they don't.
Sapphire Rapid looked like nonsense to me but Semiaccurate wrote Intel goes Pokemon which is somehow related.
Interesting roadmap, how reliable do you think this is?
There is no CNL here and the implication is that Ice Lake is part of Purley rather than Tinsley.
Okay, I see what you did there.The source is reliable. I can share the source with you if you want, posting the link in here is not a good idea because Intel is hunting.
You photoshopped the Lenovo disclaimer away.
I can see Cannonlake 10nm released in 2017 (limited to low power parts) and desktop still on 14nm (especially if 6 core mainstream happens), but the same thing in 2018 is pushing the Skylake arch way too much.
There is a reason, Intel hunted all leaks down in the past. At least it is good to know that you are an unreliable person which we cannot share anything.
That's exactly what's going to happen. Coffee Lake is Q2/Q3 2018.
According to my own testing, replacing the stock TIM with a premium liquid metal allows the load temperatures to fall considerably and I encountered fewer spikes on the hottest cores. The ability to use a 5GHz overclock at a hefty voltage without getting anywhere near the 80C mark is incredible and provides a greater flexibility to reach higher frequencies. Honestly, my CPU sample isn’t a great overclocker and requires a lot of voltage to get 5.0GHz stable. Nevertheless, the delidding process helped to achieve a more comfortable thermal output at 5.0GHz. Of course, the improvement didn’t quite go beyond 20C, but it’s almost there and the difference is large enough to make delidding a valid consideration. However, it’s important to remember that delidding invalidates the warranty and can damage your CPU if done incorrectly. This is where the Delid Die Mate comes into play because it’s practically foolproof and reduces the frustration factor. I certainly won’t be using the knife method anytime soon and the Delid Die Mate is great to avoid the hassle of prying between the IHS and strong silicon glue.
Is delidding worth it? That’s probably the most pertinent question and I’m struggling to come up with a definitive answer. The thermal reduction is clear to see and the Delid Die Mate is great for those who have never done it before. However, delidding won’t achieve higher frame-rates in games, nor dramatically improve the computing experience. Furthermore, say goodbye to your warranty and any kind of support from the original retailer. Personally, I think delidding is worthwhile to professional overclockers and extreme tweakers, but it’s not advisable for the average user.
OK, so the temperature is 20 deg lower with delidding. Not sarcasm, but a serious question, how much is the benefit of that? Will the chip have better longevity at a lower temperature, even though you have to use the same voltage? And with delidding, can you squeeze out another hundred or two mhz? Doesnt seem likely since the voltage is so high already.Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake Delidding Analysis – Does it Make a Difference?
www.eteknix.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-delidding-analysis-make-difference
Kaby Lake Overclock Data
Blue = Good Chips
Red = Bad Chips
These are the voltages required to pass Cinebench at each frequency.
Two CPUs? Sample size of two is anecdotal and not statistically meaningful.
OK, so the temperature is 20 deg lower with delidding. Not sarcasm, but a serious question, how much is the benefit of that? Will the chip have better longevity at a lower temperature, even though you have to use the same voltage? And with delidding, can you squeeze out another hundred or two mhz? Doesnt seem likely since the voltage is so high already.
So... the only real way to bypass the 5 Ghz wall is by delidding the chip?I actually found the drop in temps provided stability at 5ghz.
omg, cover pictureIntel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake Delidding Analysis – Does it Make a Difference?
www.eteknix.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-delidding-analysis-make-difference
So... the only real way to bypass the 5 Ghz wall is by delidding the chip?
omg, cover picture
some guys shouldn´t delidding cpus....
Liquid Metal?LOL, that's what I was thinking. Is the below pic supposed to be his delided 7700k with liquid metal applied, because it looks awful:
All you really need for a sff pc or even passive cooling is a MB which allows configuring long term power usage and a standard CPU of choice. It's a far more efficient solution as it allows maximizing clocks for low threaded games and apps, and gracefully lowering clocks as thread usage increases. As a quick test here's how Skylake i5 @ 4500Mhz looks like with standard TDP vs. 35W TDP imposed via BIOS.The Core i7-7700T could make for a good media centre / slim gaming pc - maybe even passive cooling at a push.
That doesn't seem to tell us what we need to know, though. Namely power consumption info. Why use a K chip? And, we don't see a T chip for comparison.All you really need for a sff pc or even passive cooling is a MB which allows configuring long term power usage and a standard CPU of choice. It's a far more efficient solution as it allows maximizing clocks for low threaded games and apps, and gracefully lowering clocks as thread usage increases. As a quick test here's how Skylake i5 @ 4500Mhz looks like with standard TDP vs. 35W TDP imposed via BIOS.
And as far as passive cooling is concerned, I have a media PC stuffed with a Noctua NH-D14 with no fans attached. The only airflow comes from a very low rpm case fan, and the 6600k @ 4000Mhz with standard TDP settings only reaches dangerous temps in Prime 95 testing, basically running AVX in full load for more than 30 mins. Limiting TDP to 50-60W would probably allow me to run any kind of continuous heavy load, and I reckon somewhere in the 35-45W region I could go 100% passive.
The only advantage I see for the T SKUs in a DIY scenario is complete MB support - you don't have to rely on BIOS settings to ensure TDP. However, even that is of little relevance, since software tools like Intel XTU or Throttlestop allow full customization of power settings.