AMD will need to bring A8-9600 right down to $60, and A6 to $40 there is no other way. I never see something like this before.
So basically, the majority of AMD's product range is effectively neutralised and Intel are positioned well for a strong Q4 growth trajectory.
Best cpu review as usual
https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/tes...e_i7_7700k_premiera_intel_kaby_lake?page=0,36
AMD will need to bring A8-9600 right down to $60, and A6 to $40 there is no other way. I never see something like this before.
Basically, 200 series chipsets are mostly a rebadge and all the changes in mobos come from new controllers.https://ark.intel.com/products/97129/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_50-GHz
Kaby Lake still does not natively support HDMI 2.0(wtf Intel?), so no 4K 60P unless your motherboard has Intel Thunderbolt 3.0 Alpine Ridge or Megachips HDMI 2.0 LSPCon.
https://ark.intel.com/products/98089/Intel-Z270-Chipset
200 series chipset do not support native USB 3.1 Gen 2 10Gbps speed, only 300 series chipset will have native USB 3.1 Gen 2 10Gbps support.
Basically, 200 series chipsets are mostly a rebadge and all the changes in mobos come from new controllers.
If anybody thought that Intel would let AMD just "take" market share without a fight, I believe they were gravely mistaken.
These 4 lanes we know are bottlenecked by DMI if you have a bunch of stuff hanging on chipset already (like... storage), so i barely buy it.No, 200 series has 4 more PCIe lanes coming off the chipset to accommodate the optane cache.
TSX is specifically useful for running lots of threads, speedups depend on many factors.All Kaby Lake CPUs now support TSX-NI instruccions, incluiding Celerons, G4560 may end more closer to I3-6100 than the 200mhz may lead to belive.
This may bring some "IPC gains" via TSX when comparing Kaby Lake to Skylake non TSX SKUs.
They may not have many options at their disposal, according to multiple sources, Intel has been acting like their fans of late, assuming AMD was going to lay a rotten egg as usual, and per multiple sources, not so much!
It's looking more and more like Intel got caught with their pants down.
Well ofcource they will not and i dont expect anyone beliewes so. Besides consumers bought loads of P4 at high prices back in the day and in 2017 people will use a GT1 for gaming while they could have got an apu instead. Becauce of oem, brand, marketing and sales force power. Product quality for $ is only one part of the story and Intel is a giant machine.If anybody thought that Intel would let AMD just "take" market share without a fight, I believe they were gravely mistaken.
Also, GT4e is now officially dead.
For the first time in history Intel gained the low end sector hands down and has to force AMD to lower Bristol Ridge APU prices, A6 to Celeron and A8 to Pentium prices.
Is Bristol made to be anything but dirt cheap?
Well ofcource they will not and i dont expect anyone beliewes so. Besides consumers bought loads of P4 at high prices back in the day and in 2017 people will use a GT1 for gaming while they could have got an apu instead. Becauce of oem, brand, marketing and sales force power. Product quality for $ is only one part of the story and Intel is a giant machine.
Amd apu will all be changed within the next year. I actually dont think it will make much difference for the desktop sub 100 usd market where the integrated gpu have a function. A zen sr3 quad 8t will target i3 so that kind of spoils the mainstream market that uses a dgpu anyway. Its in mobile where there is a need for much higher efficiency.
Cheap 28nm certainly still have a role for the lowest end but surely amd will have to ajust prices now but with zen comming there is plenty reason to do so from that perspective. Is Bristol made to be anything but dirt cheap? Compettition works. Lets wait 5 months and see prices then.
Bristol Ridge prices for whom? OEMs? I couldn't tell you what AMD is charging for those products since they haven't even bothered to sell them to the DiY market. I'd have to guess.
Petty sure it will be launched along with Zen.
Think through that explanation and tell me if it makes sense that a ~$60B revenue company would really "chance it" like that by not delivering the best product that it could subject to the constraints its working under.
Can someone confirm the 7700k max turbo boost speeds on 4-core load? Is it 4.2ghz or 4.4ghz?
You are assuming that by being a 60B revenue company they are immune to making massive mistakes. Think through that fallacy for a minute and tell me if it makes sense.
Such an obvious, rookie mistake. Maybe, but I would say the odds are low.
Far too little, far too late. But hey what do I know.
You can say whatever you like, but don't expect people to believe you when you suggest that companies with high profits don't make mistakes.
But yeah putting HT on the Pentiums does sort of kill Bristol Ridge for the DIY/retail market. AMD doesn't really have much to sell until Zen arrives.