Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Sweepr]

Intel Core m3-6Y30 Geekbench Result:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2651422

Faster than most Core M-5Y10 results with single-channel (?) 2GB memory. Not bad at all.
Now the best part is, according to Geekbench the slowest Skylake-Y part has a 1.5GHz base clock, that's higher than the fastest Broadwell-Y parts right now. Perhaps Core m7-6775's impressive 2.4GHz base clock from an earlier leak is true?
Can't wait to see how Skylake-Y fares against Broadwell-Y in longer and more demanding tasks.

 

[witeken]

Perhaps Core m7-6775's impressive 2.4GHz base clock from an earlier leak is true?

Don't hold your breath. A 2x higher base clock without new node is ridiculous.

 

[VirtualLarry]

No HDMI 2.0, so NUC will go from being an excellent choice for a HTPC build in 2014 to being an obsolete choice for a build in 2016.
Building a HTPC in 2016 without proper 4K support is not an option for me.

OS certs: Windows 10, 8 & 8.1

No Windows 7 support for Skylake NUC? Booo!

I want to keep running Windows 7 as long as possible.

And ShintaiDK, thanks for those pics of the DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 converters. It blows my mind that Skylake NUC wouldn't have support for HDMI 2.0 on it. Is Intel really that far behind the times in their engineering? It's just like Broadwell, not having H.265 hardware decode support. Will Skylake have H.265 hardware support?

 

[mikk]

It's just like Broadwell, not having H.265 hardware decode support. Will Skylake have H.265 hardware support?

Skylake has both decode and encode H265 support in hardware. And Broadwell has decode h265 support, although not clear if hybrid or fully hardware supported. Nobody with Broadwell is testing it.

 

[Dave2150]

No Windows 7 support for Skylake NUC? Booo!

I want to keep running Windows 7 as long as possible.

And ShintaiDK, thanks for those pics of the DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 converters. It blows my mind that Skylake NUC wouldn't have support for HDMI 2.0 on it. Is Intel really that far behind the times in their engineering? It's just like Broadwell, not having H.265 hardware decode support. Will Skylake have H.265 hardware support?

You'll be forced to upgrade to 8.1/10 for DX12 support, so enjoy.

Nothing wrong with Windows 8.1 even, once you've restored the start menu and a few other tweaks. You even get superior boot/shutdown times, enhanced performance in games and many other benefits.

 

[ShintaiDK]

And ShintaiDK, thanks for those pics of the DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 converters. It blows my mind that Skylake NUC wouldn't have support for HDMI 2.0 on it. Is Intel really that far behind the times in their engineering? It's just like Broadwell, not having H.265 hardware decode support. Will Skylake have H.265 hardware support?

I think the explanation is the LSPCon. Or well lack of same in the NUCs.

(Forget the Thunderbolt part)

I would guess in the long run the CPUs will only have displayport. And you need either LSPCon or a converter for HDMI. Either internal or external.

No Windows 7 support for Skylake NUC? Booo!

Windows 7 works. But its not certified because Windows 7 support have stopped. Windows 10 upgrade is free anyway.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search/default.aspx?alpha=windows%207

 

[Sweepr]

Bunch of Skylake-related products showing up at Computex:

Biostar H170Z3 and H150Z5 support both DDR3L and DDR4 (LGA1151)

With Skylake supporting both DDR3 and DDR4 memory most motherboards will support one or the other, but this monstrosity from BIOSTAR will support both.

As some of you will remember, back in the days between DDR2 and DDR3 this same thing happened, where many motherboards were sold which supported both types of RAM. This was a very strange thing to say the least as while the board has the slots to use both, it cannot do so at the same time, so effectively you will be locked to only 2 DIMMS or either DDR2 or DDR3.

BIOSTAR seems to be going back to this with the DDR3 and DDR4 switch over, with their Hi-Fi series H170Z3 and H150Z5 motherboards supporting 2 DDR3L DIMMS or 2 DIMMS or DDR4 memory.

www.overclock3d.net/articles/cpu_mainboard/ddr3_and_ddr4_on_one_motherboard/1

ASRock Next Generation Fatal1ty Motherboard Lineup Pictured

ASRock is designing multiple Fatal1ty Killer branded socket LGA1151 motherboards, which it plans to differentiate using a new naming scheme - K3, K4, and K6. The company showed off some of its latest such boards at Computex. The series is led by the Z170 Gaming K6, followed by the Z170 Gaming K4, H170 Performance, and the Z170-e ITX. All four feature the familiar red+black color scheme, and Fatal1ty branding.

The Z170 Gaming K6 leads the pack with a strong 13-phase VRM, 3-way multi-GPU support, dual-channel DDR4-3000 support, dual SATA-Express 16 Gb/s, Ultra M.2 (32 Gb/s), Killer E2200 NIC, and high-end 115 dBA SNR audio. The Z170 Gaming K4 and H170 Performance share a common PCB design, offering all essentials from this platform, and are intended for gaming PC builds with single graphics cards; the Z170 ITX offers a decent feature-set despite its space constraints, including mSATA, Ultra M.2 (32 Gb/s), SATA-Express 16 Gb/s, and USB 3.1 ports.

www.techpowerup.com/213046/asrock-next-generation-fatal1ty-motherboard-lineup-pictured.html

MSI Next Generation GAMING Motherboards Pictured

MSI's third-generation "GAMING" series motherboards are almost ready, and the company displayed two of them at Computex. The first is a mid-range socket LGA1151 motherboard, the MSI Z170A-G45 Gaming, and the X99A-GODLIKE Gaming (we kid you not). It looks like MSI is doing away with the "Gaming 3/5/7/9" nomenclature in the wake of GIGABYTE copying it. The Z170A-G41 Gaming offers a decent feature-set for gaming PC builds with up to two graphics cards. This includes an 10-phase CPU VRM, four DDR4 DIMM slots (dual-channel DDR4), three PCI-Express 3.0 x16 slots, two M.2 slots (32 Gb/s and 10 Gb/s); SATA-Express 16 Gb/s, six SATA 6 Gb/s, Killer E2205 networking, and 8-channel HD audio with ground-layer isolation and audio-grade capacitors.

The X99A-GODLIKE Gaming is a different beast. Topping off the company's LGA2011v3 lineup, this board offers top of the line components. It begins with a 12-phase VRM that draws power from a combination of 24-pin ATX, 8-pin EPS, and 4-pin ATX power connectors; five PCI-Express 3.0 x16 slots with support for 4-way SLI/CrossFire, 32 Gb/s M.2 slot, and an EMI shield that covers a large part of the front PCB area (a la ASUS TUF), and gaming-centric connectivity that includes two gigabit interfaces, 8-channel audio with onboard 600Ω headphones amp, 802.11 ac Killer ACK Double-Shot WLAN, and USB 3.1 type-C ports.

www.techpowerup.com/213038/msi-next-generation-gaming-motherboards-pictured.html

GIGABYTE Also Shows off B150M-D3H Micro-ATX Motherboard

The B150M-D3H, based on Intel's mid-range B150 Express chipset, offers a neat feature-set at a potentially sub-$100 price point. This full-width micro-ATX board offers a 6-phase CPU VRM, four DDR4 DIMM slots, supporting dual-channel DDR4-2666 memory, expansion slots that include one PCI-Express 3.0 x16, two legacy PCI, and one PCI-Express 2.0 x16 (electrical x4). Storage connectivity includes a 32 Gb/s M.2 slot, two SATA-Express 16 Gb/s ports, and six SATA 6 Gb/s ports. D-Sub, DVI, and HDMI make up the display outputs; six USB 3.0 ports, gigabit Ethernet and 8-channel HD audio make for the rest of it.

www.techpowerup.com/213032/gigabyte-also-shows-off-b150m-d3h-micro-atx-motherboard.html

GIGABYTE Also Shows off B150M-D3H Micro-ATX Motherboard

The B150M-D3H, based on Intel's mid-range B150 Express chipset, offers a neat feature-set at a potentially sub-$100 price point. This full-width micro-ATX board offers a 6-phase CPU VRM, four DDR4 DIMM slots, supporting dual-channel DDR4-2666 memory, expansion slots that include one PCI-Express 3.0 x16, two legacy PCI, and one PCI-Express 2.0 x16 (electrical x4). Storage connectivity includes a 32 Gb/s M.2 slot, two SATA-Express 16 Gb/s ports, and six SATA 6 Gb/s ports. D-Sub, DVI, and HDMI make up the display outputs; six USB 3.0 ports, gigabit Ethernet and 8-channel HD audio make for the rest of it.

www.techpowerup.com/213032/gigabyte-also-shows-off-b150m-d3h-micro-atx-motherboard.html

ASUS introduces Skylake All-in-One

ASUS introduced a new all-in-one under the Zen brand. There are two models, the Z240IC and Z220IC either a 24- and a 22-inch version. The most luxurious version has an unnamed quad-core Skylake Intel Core i7 processor, up to 32GB of DDR4-2133 RAM and a 512GB PCI Express SSD. For the graphics there's a Nvidia GeForce GTX960M responsible, coupled with 4GB of memory.

http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/4397...&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=hardwareinfo

Asus debuts beefy gaming PC with Skylake CPU and DDR4 memory

Early adopters take note: Asus has used Computex 2015 to the lid on two new gaming PCs that are among the first to use Intel's upcoming Skylake processor. The G11CB pairs a 6th-generation Intel Core chip with an Nvidia GTX 980 graphics card, a M.2 SSD and USB 3.1 ports.

Interestingly, the machine is listed as coming with (an unspecified amount of) DDR4 RAM, which only became supported under Intel's Skylake chip and promises to bring lower power consumption, in addition to faster data transfer rates over DDR3. The G11CB has an "aggressively-designed chassis", according to Asus, which sports multi-colour LEDs on the front and sides. On the software front, it's set to ship with Aegis II, and GameAlive, which lets you record and edit game videos to share on social media sites.
Compact cruncher

A new addition to Asus's Republic of Gamers (ROG) series, the ROG G20CB also packs similar specs - including Intel's Skylake chip and an unspecified Nvidia GeForce GTX card - into a space-conscious 12.5-liter chassis. It features four SSDs for storage, DDR4 SDRAM and USB 3.0 ports, in addition to customisable LEDs.

www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/as...-cpu-and-ddr4-memory-1295446?src=rss&attr=all

Corsair's Bulldog PC kit will bring next-gen Skylake CPU to the living room

The Bulldog is an interesting piece of tech. Basically what Corsair has done is split the difference between "custom-built, boutique PC design" and "DIY computer using stock parts." You buy the Bulldog as a $400 bundle containing the chassis, mini-ITX motherboard, liquid CPU cooler, and 600-watt power supply. You then supply your own CPU, storage, RAM, and (if you want) graphics card.

Corsair didn't reveal much about the motherboard except for two things that you should care about: It's DDR4 and it'll run Intel's upcoming Skylake CPU. Skylake is the CPU beyond today's Broadwell chips and is expected to bring significant performance improvements when released later this year.

If you decide to toss in a graphics card, you'll probably want to take advantage of one more custom piece of kit—a liquid graphics card cooler. It's those two liquid-cooled pieces that make the Bulldog one of the—if not the—most quiet living room PCs I've seen. The Hydro Series liquid CPU cooler in particular is designed for the Bulldog—it slots into the machine in such a way that it vents straight out the back of the case, rather than blowing hot air around inside and relying on other fans to pump it out.

Then there's the liquid GPU cooling. Corsair's internal benchmarks show liquid-cooled cards running approximately 25 degrees Celsius cooler and pumping out (on average) about five more frames per second, because they can be overclocked higher. For instance, playing Far Cry 4 at 4K on a standard Titan X gave Corsair 40 frames per second. Liquid-cooled and overclocked, they managed to get 45—while simultaneously running the card cooler.

www.pcworld.com/article/2929077/cor...gs-intels-skylake-cpu-to-the-living-room.html

 

[witeken]

Finally a successor for Haswell, in the end! Performance shouldn't be to get excited about, but I can't wait for the deep dive ! Will probably have to wait till august.

 

[ShintaiDK]

That DDR3L+DDR4 board...so odd

 

[JoeRambo]

That DDR3L+DDR4 board...so odd

A step in the right direction. Now we just need Asrock to release 4xDDR3L board and I will be real happy

 

[PPB]

Asrock always do that stuff, remember the board that supported both lga 1156 and 1155 cpus? That is value in a product right where it counts

 

[Sweepr]

Intel Skylake Xeon E3 rumored to Support DDR4 Registered DIMM's

Abit information about the next Xeon E3 line-up dubbed Skylake by Intel. The new Skylake LGA1151 processors are expected to support DDR4 Registered memory, moving away from Unregistered memory which is what the current generation Xeon E3 v3 processors use. Current samples have had a similar dual memory controllers (DDR3/DDR4) design like Haswell-EP, Broadwell-DE and Haswell-EX from what we have heard. We expected the move towards DDR4 but the change to RDIMM is another step forward.

The main advantage of course is memory capacity, potentiailly offering upto 128GB/256GB of memory support (Using 32GB or even 64GB DIMM's) with only 4 DIMM slots. The current Haswell Xeon E3 V3 generation only supports a maxmium of 32GB so Skylake Xeon E3 could offer a significant step forward right off the bat. Today’s workloads are increasingly memory bound so an increase from a 8GB (practical) memory module/ slot limit to a 32GB/64GB memory module per slot format on Intel Skylake platforms is welcome.

This has always been one of the limiting factors of the E3 platform, while it does support ECC UDIMM (Their desktop Core i3,i5 and i7 doesn't) most of the plaform has been derived from desktop and mobile parts. It has at times forced users to upgrade to the more expensive Xeon E5 platform due to the fact that they simply needed more memory capacity even they did not require a more performance intensive CPU.

Should this become the reality once Skylake is released, then it will well and truely shift DDR4 RDIMM memory to become the norm as all three of Intel's Xeon platforms, E3, E5 and E7 would be supporting reggistered DDR4 memory.

http://serverfactory.co.uk/blog/Skylake_RDIMM/

 

[Blue_Max]

Asrock always do that stuff, remember the board that supported both lga 1156 and 1155 cpus? That is value in a product right where it counts

I don't remember that one, but there were a good handful of AMD 754 + 939 boards, plus lots of SDR/DDR, DDR1+2 or 2+3 boards out there.

 

[VirtualLarry]

That DDR3L+DDR4 board...so odd

And yet... so practical. (For the upgrader.)

But unforunately, no DDR3 SV support. And if I have to buy new memory for a board, it might as well be DDR4.

 

[cbn]

Intel Skylake Xeon E3 rumored to Support DDR4 Registered DIMM's

http://serverfactory.co.uk/blog/Skylake_RDIMM/

Nice!

 

[MrTeal]

The dual boards will be nice for comparing DDR3 and DDR4 on the new platform. I know Anand did some comparisons, but they were on different platforms with one CPU emulating another and so they weren't really 1:1.

I don't really want to buy another 16GB of DDR4, so if the performance gain is minimal I'd definitely be tempted to use my existing kit and spend that $150 on another part of the system.

 

[iSkylaker]

The dual boards will be nice for comparing DDR3 and DDR4 on the new platform. I know Anand did some comparisons, but they were on different platforms with one CPU emulating another and so they weren't really 1:1.

I don't really want to buy another 16GB of DDR4, so if the performance gain is minimal I'd definitely be tempted to use my existing kit and spend that $150 on another part of the system.

But, assuming you have regular DDR3 I'm pretty sure it [Biostar MB] won't support it, it is DDR3L which, again, you'll have to buy another kit.

 

[tenks]

The ddr4 kit I've been eyeing for the last, what 3-4 months now? have just dropped another $60.

32gig 2666 c15 ddr4. They started off around $570ish. Now they're sitting at around $300ish.

Thanks skylake!

 

[iSkylaker]

The ddr4 kit I've been eyeing for the last, what 3-4 months now? have just dropped another $60.

32gig 2666 c15 ddr4. They started off around $570ish. Now they're sitting at around $300ish.

Thanks skylake!

yup there are 8GB kits already, some are being sold as single 4GB kits as regular DDR3. DDR4 prices dropped sooner than ever.

 

[Blue_Max]

The dual boards will be nice for comparing DDR3 and DDR4 on the new platform. I know Anand did some comparisons, but they were on different platforms with one CPU emulating another and so they weren't really 1:1.

I don't really want to buy another 16GB of DDR4, so if the performance gain is minimal I'd definitely be tempted to use my existing kit and spend that $150 on another part of the system.

I remember some of those old dual-RAM boards had a small performance hit - worth it when it comes down to upgrading in steps.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Not sure if this was posted.

 

[imaheadcase]

That GIGABYTE B150M-D3H Micro-ATX Motherboard looks really appealing.

 

[JoeRambo]

But, assuming you have regular DDR3 I'm pretty sure it [Biostar MB] won't support it, it is DDR3L which, again, you'll have to buy another kit.

DDR3L desktop variant is pretty much identical to DDR3, except it runs 1.35V. I am 100% certain that MC on Skylake can handle 11% voltage increase to 1.5V. Ofc there could be problems with booting, but there should be no additional problems running DDR3 or overclocking DDR3L with some extra voltage.


For me the problem is that i have 4x8GB and I need them, 16GB would be painful

 

[mikk]

Not sure if this was posted.

Already posted. This was leaked from me.

 

[dark zero]

The thing I want to see is that finally real quad cores without HT is about to hit the market... Maybe the Core i7 era is about to end