[Iris Plus 650] should perform significantly better ... thanks to Kaby Lake's improvement under CPU + iGPU loads
Is this a real thing with the uarch or something you just made up?
NotebookCheck said:Even though the HD Graphics 520 successor is still equipped with just 24 Execution units (EUs) and the clocks did not change, either (i7-6500U/i7-7500U: up to 1050 MHz), Intel was able to improve the performance considerably: The gaming performance is 20-30 percent higher on average, so the performance gains are even higher than the synthetic benchmarks indicated.
ComputerBase (Translated) said:Both in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and in Unravel, the HD Graphics 620 in the Core i7-7500U after half hour load still sustains 1,000 to 1.050 MHz. Maximum possible is 1.050 MHz. So far, no tested U-processor system based on Skylake in the editorial staff managed that, the clock rates fell to 850 to 950 MHz.
Kaby Lake-U sustains higher clocks than Skylake-U, especially when both the CPU cores and graphics (iGPU) are taxed simultaneously, that's a fact.
On mobile/NUC, OK sure. On the desktop, there's no difference except for clockspeeds.
But that's the context of the original post you quoted. The new NUC is using a mobile Kaby Lake-U 28W.
Mobile is no different from desktops, process improvement allowing for higher clocks + updated media engine and Optane support.
See, I think the FIVR is coming back on Coffee Lake. That might be the one thing they do, beyond the extra cores.
No, that requires change to the die.
That's right, but they are making changes to the die. According to the leak, the 4+2 model is a tad bigger (126 vs 123 mm2) and of course they are doing the 6 core model.
So they are doing something other than adding the 6 core model. But nothing to the GPU and likely nothing to the CPU cores themselves.
Coffee Lake is based on a 14nm derivative. Not clear if it is 14nm+ or 14nm++ yet.
It seems like a lot of people would believe that intel would rather sell $100 i3's than $64 HT enabled Pentiums, though...
If they can sell just as many i3s, then wouldn't they?
FIVR is a big, high risk change for what is supposed to be a low risk project intended to make sure Intel has new products every year.
I just don't see it.
Skylake originally had it, and we can be pretty sure Cannonlake has it (due to the TDP increase to 5.2 W). Maybe I am misinterpreting the benefits, but I would think that for 6 core to work in mobile you would want it.
I did appreciate the fact that we will have 10nm from Intel in any form this year. Apparently this bothers you for some reason, well would you look at that.
7th Generation Core (Kaby Lake-S) CPUs available at Newegg
http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/...gg.com/intel/16-8997/1920x360.jpg&icid=384108
Core i5 and Core i7 on sale, Core i3 to be released January 16.
It was stated Pentiums, 7350k and Celerons will launch a little later.Harumph, no Pentium (with HT) to be found... G4400 Pentium WAS available at Skylake launch. I know, because I bought two of them to OC in my new ASRock Z170 Pro4S boards.
However support is provided, it will apparently be 2.0a with HDR.
G4400 Pentium WAS available at Skylake launch. I know, because I bought two of them to OC in my new ASRock Z170 Pro4S boards.
Edit: Actually, when I bought mine, it might have been closer to Oct. 2015, than Aug. 2015. I would have to check my old threads, or my old posts in this thread.
Harumph, no Pentium (with HT) to be found... G4400 Pentium WAS available at Skylake launch. I know, because I bought two of them to OC in my new ASRock Z170 Pro4S boards.
Edit: Actually, when I bought mine, it might have been closer to Oct. 2015, than Aug. 2015. I would have to check my old threads, or my old posts in this thread.
It was stated Pentiums, 7350k and Celerons will launch a little later.
IIRC, didn't the Israeli team design Skylake? They were against including an FIVR. Also, I doubt 6 cores is for anything other than an 'H' or possibly 'X' model SKU.