Eurogamer's Intel Kaby Lake: Core i7 7700K review
The most interesting part are the DDR4 memory scaling results. Stock Core i7-7700K paired with DDR4-2400+ is faster than 4.8 GHz Core i7-7700K with DDR4-2133! Choose your memory kit wisely.
www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-review
it continues to scale at higher speeds provided timings don't go to shitThe most interesting part are the DDR4 memory scaling results. Stock Core i7-7700K paired with DDR4-2400+ is faster than 4.8 GHz Core i7-7700K with DDR4-2133! Choose your memory kit wisely.
It's nice to have an i3 that can be overclocked, particularly one that will hit the dizzy heights of 5 GHz although compared with the i5 and i7 retails chips it did require a little more volts to get it there. When playing with the overclocks it did 'feel' like it wanted to give us more too but even with volts increased to 1.4 we couldnt even get a 5.1GHz screenshot so we stuck with a nice round 5GHz with 1.35v. There is no doubt that the i3 7350K despite its fairly big price tag, can reward you with some fun and games. Even the IMC isn't short of some grunt under the hood, pushing our DDR4 close to the 4000 MHz barrier and we have a feeling that this was a board limitation rather than the silicone itself
The combination of a dual-core CPU with hyperthreading has meant that all but the truly core-heavy tasks such as rendering or video encoding are able to be handled with aplomb. The real feather in the cap of the i3-7350K is the overclocking though. It's hardly a slouch at 4.2 GHz out of the box, but we easily got 5 GHz from its refined 14nm process. Couple this to some speedy RAM and you end up with a system that is a great all rounder. Our PC Mark 7 and 8 results were perfect reflections of this.
There are a couple of minor niggles. Firstly the i3-7350K is more expensive than previous i3s, largely because of that hyperthreading and overclocking. It's not significantly cheaper than an i5-7600K. The choice is yours, but it's slightly harder to recommend when its butting up against its bigger brother. Secondly it might be a monster overclocker that gets 5GHz but that overclocking comes at a significant power draw cost. Our OC'd system drew nearly twice the Watts at the wall of the stock system. It is by no means thirst, but it's something worth bearing in mind.
With great overclocking, good all round performance and fantastic gaming performance the i3 7350K is definitely worth considering if you know that you'll be gaming more often than not, and thus wins our OC3D Gamers Choice award.
Might have been a killer chip for gaming a few years ago, when single thread performance was king. Now, not sure I see the place for it. Sort of bracketed on both sides by the hyperthreaded pentium for budget rigs and a true quad for middle of the road and higher.
The i5-7500 runs at 3.5Ghz all core turbo, the i3 runs 20% faster at stock,after o/c the i3 is ~40% faster, and all that while being cheaper.Right now at Newegg the i3-7350K without a cooler is $190 and the i5-7500 with a cooler is $205.
The i5-7500 is going to kill the i3 in anything multi-threaded and likely be close to it single threaded as it turbos to 3.8.The i5-7500 runs at 3.5Ghz all core turbo, the i3 runs 20% faster at stock,after o/c the i3 is ~40% faster, and all that while being cheaper.
Just take a look around at how many people hope and pray for 40% IPC increase.... (I know it's not the same but still)
Sure it only makes sense for a small group of people,it's not your average mainstream CPU,but for people that want the performance for simulations emulations image processing or what not it's a perfectly valid purchase.
You have an H110i GT or equivalent laying around?If it was $175, I might buy it (just for fun). I'm guessing a large percentage of the 7350K's target audience will already have a cooler available. I know I have several.
I see you want to go to extraordinary lengths to protect your point of view. Fine, the i5-7500 is better, okay? We don't really disagree on that. I do think the use of excessive hyperbole to make a point is off-putting and unnecessary. An AIO cooler is not prerequisite to use an i3-7350K effectively, nor will the i5-7500 "kill" it in MT tasks. Win, sure, while losing big in ST due to its locked multiplier.You have an H110i GT or equivalent laying around?
Well, that's the cooler that was used to reach 5.0 in the test quoted, and seems to be the type cooler that is used to test the 7350K and get it up there.I see you want to go to extraordinary lengths to protect your point of view. Fine, the i5-7500 is better, okay? We don't really disagree on that. I do think the use of excessive hyperbole to make a point is off-putting and unnecessary. An AIO cooler is not prerequisite to use an i3-7350K effectively, nor will the i5-7500 "kill" it in MT tasks. Win, sure, while losing big in ST due to its locked multiplier.
How could I know? I just know there are plenty of commonly available air cooler capable of dissipating well over 100W. I have a Hyper 212 Evo laying around, I would expect around 4.8GHz or so.Well, that's the cooler that was used to reach 5.0 in the test quoted, and seems to be the type cooler that is used to test the 7350K and get it up there.
What are you going to reach on air?
I didn't say that it is.The i5-7500 is going to kill the i3 in anything multi-threaded and likely be close to it single threaded as it turbos to 3.8.
You have to buy a cooler for the i3, and if you are thinking of getting the i3 to a high clock, then you need to buy a good cooler.
The i3 is not cheaper, period. It's only cheaper if you are able to forget about the cooler cost.
Comparing the i3-7350K at stock speed to an i5-6600, the closest thing I could see to an i5-7500:The i5-7500 is going to kill the i3 in anything multi-threaded and likely be close to it single threaded as it turbos to 3.8.
You have to buy a cooler for the i3, and if you are thinking of getting the i3 to a high clock, then you need to buy a good cooler.
The i3 is not cheaper, period. It's only cheaper if you are able to forget about the cooler cost.
Those were some old GPUs, though.Comparing the i3-7350K at stock speed to an i5-6600, the closest thing I could see to an i5-7500:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1829?vs=1646
It looks like it will hold its own better than many think when OCed, the target being a lower midrange gamer/OCer who would otherwise get the 7600K if budget allowed. I don't think it will be having too much trouble driving midrange GPUs, and it provides the fun of tinkering with OCing, unlike the pedestrian lower end i5s...
Well, you aren't likely to reach 5.0 with it unless you have an expensive cooler.I didn't say that it is.
It is the cheapest option to get 5Ghz though,fastest single thread speed,for those people that need it or want it and it still has 4 threads so it won't completely suck at anything else.
Yes the i5 is better for general usage compared to the i3-k and nobody said otherwise.
Someone asked what the purpose was for such a chip and I gave some scenarios where it will be awesome,nothing more.