No, is not that, i lived though Athlon XP, Athlon 64, Conroe, Nehalem, Barcelona, Sandy Bridge, Bulldozer eras and ive never seem anything like this, you cant even say anything remotely negative about ANY AMD product, and is not only here, same happen with GPUs. Maybe is because im getting old but i dont remember this to have happen before. Well actually BD launch was a little bit like this, but it was way too poor to support it.
I've been a PC enthusistis since the family got its first PC a 486 DX2-66 and i dont see it anywhere near how you are seeing it. The actual problem is that outside of 7700K neither broadwell or kaby lake good good against zen when you consider all metrics. Then with the 7700K your fighting the current that game development is only heading in one direction and that is to use more threads, so its winning battles but its going to lose the war.
In a way what you have is almost the complete opposite of the BD release where only the 8150 looked in anyway like a 1/2 ok product against sandy bridge, Do we need to go and dig up posts from anandtech from that era?
Anyway, going back to the silicon, this is actually a less damage than A64 did back in its day, Intel can counter with the stuff in the pipeline THIS YEAR, it may be not enoght to fully beat Ryzen across the board at price/performance, but im sure it will be close enoght so nothing will change, and that is bad for us
What are you talking about, It has already changed for us! 6 and 8 core high IPC high clock processors for under 320USD, Also remember X399 is to come as well with upto 16cores.
You also completely ignored the market situation and then just handwaved "intel will be better".......
You are also aware that cannonlake is still just skylake cores so until 2019 what exactly are intel going to do other then clock speed? when icelake comes out it will be fighting against a 2nd or 3rd iteration of Zen both of which will have uarch improvements.
Is really Naples that much of a problem to Intel when Naples is 2P, and LGA3647 has 2S, 4S and 8S configurations? Intel biggest server could be a 224C/448T one.
Idont know i think we need to wait and see the Skylake-X/SP core performance.
Most of the market is 1P and 2P, there are very few system thats are 4P and 8P are in the really high end boutique SGI world. The cost for those 4P and 8P systems are extreme and the overheads for memory performance are huge, you will only find ultra extensive, ultra highend applications running on them.
Naples has two or three massive advantages,
1. the 4 small die approach is good form a yield perspective but is even better from a transistor variance perspective, this means AMD can bin power efficient/high performance/balanced zeppelins really well and then package them together.
2. The amount of PCIe lanes, 1P has 128 PCIe v3 lanes, 2P has 64 PCIe lanes a proc ( 128 total) , will be great platform for AMD GPGPU, NV(even better then power) as well as knights-*. All those PCIe lanes are also really great for all flash hyper converged systems.
3. On SOC crypto accelerators, we will have to wait and see if skylake-X/SP has them but Zepplin does and if skylake-SP doesn't when exposed this will be a massive processing and power advantage for anything TLS.
Other interesting features are:
8x 3200mhz DDR4 support ( skylake-SP is said to be 2666 and has only 6 channels).
AMD SVE which allows for each virtual machine in a hypervisor to have its memory encrypted in hardware and transparently to the Guest and the keys aren't exposed to the hypervisor.
Zen will also have more cores and will be way easier for amd to make 32 core chips then it will be for intel to make 30 core chips.
Rome wasn't built in a day, but AMD have done everything they needed to, to take significant market share form intel in all markets ( do we really need to compare what Vega IP will look like against intle GFX?).
If intel choose not to fight on price you can't cry that nothings changed because you only want to buy intel.