Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[cytg111]

JUST LAUNCH DAMNIT .. WANT REVIEWS .. and surface4

 

[B-Riz]

JUST LAUNCH DAMNIT .. WANT REVIEWS .. and surface4

Are we there yet?

 

[CakeMonster]

Is M.2 and USB 3.1 native in the intel chipset now?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Is M.2 and USB 3.1 native in the intel chipset now?

M2 is just PCIe. So nothing "native" about it. But yes, 3 of them supported on Z170.

Native USB 3.1 requries the thunderbolt controller. (It adds USB 3.1 Gen2 support)

 

[jpiniero]

If 10 nm/Cannonlake really is not coming out until the middle of 2017, that's quite a long time between real updates. Guess they are going to release Skylake Refresh for all models in 2016 and not just desktops.

 

[Berryracer]

JUST LAUNCH DAMNIT .. WANT REVIEWS .. and surface4

we need to take a 4 month time then wake up to even dream of any of this to happen

 

[Fjodor2001]

M2 is just PCIe. So nothing "native" about it. But yes, 3 of them supported on Z170.

Native USB 3.1 requries the thunderbolt controller. (It adds USB 3.1 Gen2 support)

So USB 3.1 is not native and requries an additional chip?

 

[Sweepr]

If 10 nm/Cannonlake really is not coming out until the middle of 2017, that's quite a long time between real updates. Guess they are going to release Skylake Refresh for all models in 2016 and not just desktops.

I hope they suprise us once again like they did with Devil's Canyon.
Higher clocked Skylake-S, Skylake GT4e, another unlocked dual-core (preferably 4 Threads), dual-core with GT3e graphics. Give me at least 2 of those and I'm happy with their 2016 desktop lineup.

 

[ShintaiDK]

So USB 3.1 is not native and requries an additional chip?

Define native. The 100 series chipset also an additional chip. So is many other chips on the mobo. Native is usually in the regard that its made by AMD or Intel. Rather than some crappy company like asmedia.

Alpiine Ridge is the foundation for a lot of future I/O. Including HDMI 2.0.

 

[Sweepr]

So AMD's 28nm quad-core APU 95W Bristol Ridge APU with 512 SPs is expected to be only 15% faster than (35W?) Carrizo (July 2016 launch) which barely puts it ahead of Broadwell-K GT3e in this benchmark (estimated ~3165 points vs 3050-3100 points). They weren't kidding about the optimized for low TDPs talk.
Intel will have quad-core GT4e Skylake out for Xeon E3 in Q1-2016. LGA desktop version will almost certainly launch at some point in 2016 to replace Broadwell-K, and they're expecting a 50% bump in 3DMark scores (Skylake-H GT4e vs Broadwell-H GT3e). They could leave the higher perfoming Skylake GT4e to high-end ($280-400) since (smaller and cheaper) dual-core GT3e Skylake might be more than fast enough CPU/iGPU-wise to compete with Bristol Ridge.

 

[jj109]

So AMD's 28nm quad-core APU 95W Bristol Ridge APU with 512 SPs is expected to be only 15% faster than (35W?) Carrizo (July 2016 launch) which barely puts it ahead of Broadwell-K GT3e in this benchmark (estimated ~3165 points vs 3050-3100 points). They weren't kidding about the optimized for low TDPs talk.

More likely explanation is that Carrizo is taking a page from Mullins and turning the turbo to 11.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Define native. The 100 series chipset also an additional chip. So is many other chips on the mobo. Native is usually in the regard that its made by AMD or Intel. Rather than some crappy company like asmedia.

Alpiine Ridge is the foundation for a lot of future I/O. Including HDMI 2.0.

So USB 3.1 is not included in the 100 series chipset and requires an additional chip. Thanks, that's all I needed to know.

 

[Dufus]

Question. Is Skylake using a 24MHz BCLK?

 

[pcslookout]

Will Skylake be expensive at first? The processors of course?

Plus will they have k series like SandyBridge did ?

 

[tenks]

Will Skylake be expensive at first? The processors of course?

Plus will they have k series like SandyBridge did ?

Traditionally every generation of Core has had a K series since Sandy, and also the same price point +/- for each sku bin.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Will Skylake be expensive at first? The processors of course?

Plus will they have k series like SandyBridge did ?

It will cost the same as the CPUs does today.

And the last question is answered in the first post of the thread.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Question. Is Skylake using a 24MHz BCLK?

Why would it use 24Mhz?

 

[MountainKing]

My pc just died on me. How much longer until it is released?

 

[pcslookout]

My pc just died on me. How much longer until it is released?

2 months or so.

 

[MountainKing]

Thanks....:S Looking bad...

 

[Dufus]

Why would it use 24Mhz?

There was some talk of Haswell using 24MHz before launch but perhaps that was some confusion with power saving features.

Haven't seen any Skylake screenshots except these.

So just wondering if it's a problem with CPU-z or if they are actually using a 24MHz BCLK.

 

[Muadib]

Thanks....:S Looking bad...

I feel your pain. The same happened to me last month when my power supply fried my motherboard. I guess I got off cheap, but it's still money wasted.

 

[ShintaiDK]

There was some talk of Haswell using 24MHz before launch but perhaps that was some confusion with power saving features.

Haven't seen any Skylake screenshots except these.

So just wondering if it's a problem with CPU-z or if they are actually using a 24MHz BCLK.

I think you mixed it up with this:

 

[pcslookout]

It will cost the same as the CPUs does today.

And the last question is answered in the first post of the thread.

Thank you!

 

[Dufus]

I think you mixed it up

Not really, I already said about HSW power saving features. When software reads the core frequency the core needs to be active in order to do so. IOW when CPU-z is reading the frequency then bclk should not be in a power saving state. So the question remains. Why is it showing 24MHz?

A screenshot of SKL running 100MHz bclk would suffice to answer the question.