formulav8
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enthusiast market so that AMD doesn't get a marketing edge.
For sure. That's why competition is a good thing for most everyone. Even for the Intel or AMD only's.
enthusiast market so that AMD doesn't get a marketing edge.
Oh please, this was your excuse for selling your 6950X and getting the 7700K:I buy hardware because I like hardware, I make no pretense that I buy this stuff because I "need" it.
It may come as a shock to you, but hobbyists don't buy things necessarily because they need them
Much cheaper hobby than smoking, gambling, or any of those other things that I don't do!
Some time ago you were more interested in replacing the 7700K with 6C/12T CFL-S. So not only did you try to justify nonsensically about why the 7700K ought to be preferable to the 6950X, but now you also promptly forget to "put your money where your mouth is" and try to argue about how you want the best because it's your "hobby".I made a general statement about why for consumer usage, a lower-latency-but-lower-throughput processor could be preferable to a higher-throughput-but-higher-latency processor.
Do note that I sold a 6950X and replaced it with a 7700K, so I put my money where my mouth is.
Oh please, this was your excuse for selling your 6950X and getting the 7700K:
Some time ago you were more interested in replacing the 7700K with 6C/12T CFL-S. So not only did you try to justify nonsensically about why the 7700K ought to be preferable to the 6950X, but now you also promptly forget to "put your money where your mouth is" and try to argue about how you want the best because it's your "hobby".
Oh and smoking and gambling aren't hobbies. They're addictions, or more appropriately, afflictions.
Aside from the currently ongoing AMD press event?Honestly, if i was a third party i would probably think that AMD sympathizers have gone insane with lack of any meaningful AMD news.
Well, all that drama happened before their live stream.Aside from the currently ongoing AMD press event?
Intel and AMD both have maintained a consistent view when it comes to overclocking - they recommend against it.That said, i am still in disbelief over the usage of TIM. I guess Intel really does not want them to be overclocked under warranty.
Pointing out inconsistencies and u-turns. Why do you care?What is the point of this post? Reported.
AMD's view is hardly consistent with unlocked multipliers on every SKU and all.Intel and AMD both have maintained a consistent view when it comes to overclocking - they recommend against it.
Overclocking aka running the CPU outside of the manufacturer-approved specifications, is not covered under warranty in normal circumstances, and is applicable to both AMD and Intel.AMD's view is hardly consistent with unlocked multipliers on every SKU and all.
Intel's view OTOH... now that's active action against any and all overclocking except the one with paid premium.
I am well aware of their legal position.Overclocking aka running the CPU outside of the manufacturer-approved specifications, is not covered under warranty in normal circumstances, and is applicable to both AMD and Intel.
Pointing out inconsistencies and u-turns. Why do you care?
Intel isn't under any obligation to provide better thermal solution for their unlocked chips. Just because AMD does one thing it doesn't mean that Intel has to do the same - I thought this was the accepted position in these forums long before I started posting here.I am well aware of their legal position.
And you are also well aware of what they are actually doing about it, so why pretend otherwise?
Intel and AMD both have maintained a consistent view when it comes to overclocking - they recommend against it.
Intel was not under any obligation to introduce BCLK governor either, yet it did.Intel isn't under any obligation to provide better thermal solution for their unlocked chips. Just because AMD does one thing it doesn't mean that Intel has to do the same - I thought this was the accepted position in these forums long before I started posting here.
Those are sponsored events, they've got nothing to do with the general public.Really. I guess all that support over the years for overclocking competitions and whatnot was just liked the faked moon landings?
You know all those fake moon landings were real, I mean fake, I saw an excerpt in Fargo last weekReally. I guess all that support over the years for overclocking competitions and whatnot was just liked the faked moon landings?
Those are sponsored events, they've got nothing to do with the general public.
Or do you believe that der8auer and Elmor have an email conversation with Intel customer support on overclocking issues?
Where is the statement from Intel that says "we are committed to supporting overclocking, hence we give you adjustable BCLK and soldered chips?"Intel was not under any obligation to introduce BCLK governor either, yet it did.
Ferrari sponsored Michael Schumacher to test the FXX around Maranello - that doesn't mean that you and I can turn up at their HQ throwing money at them expecting the same courtesy to be extended to us.Uh, how long have you been involved in the DIY enthusiast PC world? Intel and AMD have literally sponsored such events. I don't know if it's still available, but one used to be able to buy an Intel protection plan that even covered failure due to overclocking.
Honestly, if i was a third party i would probably think that AMD sympathizers have gone insane with lack of any meaningful AMD news.
That said, i am still in disbelief over the usage of TIM. I guess Intel really does not want them to be overclocked under warranty.
Intel is most likely not actively thinking about overclocking one way or the other. Sure, they advertise the capability on their marketing slides, but that does not mean they are going to do anything to actively improve overclockability. In fact, it would be terrible business to sell CPUs at frequencies below what they could reasonably achieve for the sake of "headroom." The packages with TIM meet official thermal specifications, which is as much thought as Intel is going to put into this matter.Honestly, if i was a third party i would probably think that AMD sympathizers have gone insane with lack of any meaningful AMD news.
That said, i am still in disbelief over the usage of TIM. I guess Intel really does not want them to be overclocked under warranty.