That's exactly what people shouldn't do. R7 1700 is real and it can't be imagined or hoped away by those trying to pretend $600 is acceptable for an 8 core CPU at this stage in the game, not to mention what threadripper will bring to the $600 price bracket. Its going to get worse for Intel.
I don't attack Intel for fun or because I have some strange axe to grind. I've had Intel CPU's for ever. The issue is that with new competition there should be new value offered by intel, and they almost had it until they decided to pretend R7 1700 doesn't exist, priced their chips too high (yet again) and gave us TIM instead of solder. Intel's image is suffering pretty bad right now IMO and rightly so.
Yup, R7 1700 (and the 6 core parts, too) have just wrecked Intel's milk the customer scheme they've been so comfortable in for the past few years. It seems Threadripper could have a similar effect if it lives up to what it is on paper.
Competition has a habit of giving us better products in the end, so it's all worth it.
I think you meant the 7820x (8-core).
The 1800x was just a halo part anyway to get some high margins. The 1700 is a much better deal and performs almost the same when OCed. Also it's confirmed that AMD will lower 1800x price because X399 will get an 8-core part cheaper than current 1800x. In fact they might lower price of the whole Ryzen series. So the 7820x will go up against 12-core Thread-ripper. Yes, 7820x will be faster single-threaded but have 50% less cores and hence will loose in any highly multi-threaded workload and by a lot. That should be enough already but TR also comes with more than double the PCIe lanes. I wonder if Intel sells their alpine ridge TB3 controller to be used on X399 boards...
Quad channel memory on top of that vs AM4 Ryzen. All in all quite the upgrade and certainly worthy of the HEDT title, we'll see how it turns out vs the competition and if it's worthwhile over a 1700-1800x. I wonder if those are going to get more price slashes to make more room for TR parts... My 2500k should last a few more months until the dust settles down. Gotta love AMD not artificially gimping their platforms just for the sake of segmentation.
BTW Linus' video sums up my thoughts quite well about the X299 platform and Kabylake-X being a pointless addition that only serves to complicate things, plus all the stuff about the >12c parts.... until I learned of the $$$$ USB stick unlocking RAID modes... I truly got upset about that. What the f*** is that crap?! My dinosaur of a P67 motherboard can do all those (0,1,5,10) and even more! Before that, my ancient P35+ICH9R motherboard could also do those!
These past 5 years of AMD being for all intents and purposes inexistent sure has had them rest on their laurels way too much. I don't think they can get even more anti consumer than that, even facing such competition.
I don't have much hope for CFL and its platform after this nonsense. Hope they haven't lost their mind on that one too.