Saylick
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Right... If the best binned 12C TR SKU (i.e. 3.5 Ghz base clock) comes in at $850, is there much incentive to buy the 7900X @ $1K?Still too damn expensive.
Right... If the best binned 12C TR SKU (i.e. 3.5 Ghz base clock) comes in at $850, is there much incentive to buy the 7900X @ $1K?Still too damn expensive.
DigiTimes said:Since Intel's Z370 chipsets, which will be paired with the CPU giant's next-generation Coffee Lake processors, will not natively support USB 3.1, Lin expects demand for its USB 3.1 chips from motherboard players to rise.
In addition to SATA-, PCIe- and USB 3.1-related product lines, ASMedia has also been promoting its RAID and PCIe bridge chip products in the industrial PC (IPC) and network storage markets.
In anticipation of Intel's next-generation 300-series chipsets which are expected to natively support USB 3.1 and are scheduled to be released in 2018, ASMedia has already begun developing USB 3.2-related products to maintain its revenue growth, related solutions should be ready for launch in 2018.
Because almost everyone buys a new motherboard with a new CPU. You have to keep in mind that the posters on these forums who want a new CPU without a new motherboard are in the extreme minority.So there is going to be a Z370 this year and a Z390 next year?? Why is Intel doing this?
So there is going to be a Z370 this year and a Z390 next year?? Why is Intel doing this?
Skylake-X Now Available For Pre-Order in the US
http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=825403410&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=BX80673&search=Search
Intel® Processor Pricing Effective Jun 07, 2017 Recommended Customer Price Tray Units
i9-7900X (13.75M cache, 10 Cores, 20 Threads, 3.30 GHz, 14nm) - $989
i7-7820X (11M cache, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 3.60 GHz, 14nm) - $589
i7-7800X (8.25M cache, 6 Cores, 12 Threads, 3.50 GHz, 14nm) - $383
i7-7740X (8M cache, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 4.30 GHz, 14nm) - $339
i5-7640X (6M cache, 4 Cores, 4 Threads, 4.00 GHz, 14nm) $242
https://s21.q4cdn.com/600692695/fil...7_Recommended_Customer_Price_List_updated.pdf
Good of Intel to lower its prices, but a measly $10 US reduction is laughable. They should have added another 0. Nevertheless, thanks for posting!! Monday...
Going by that table, how about this then?Here's my uneducated guess to the Coffee Lake desktop lineup after considering your comment:
Core i7: All 6-core, with HT
i7-8750X 112 Watts
i7-8700K 91 Watts
i7-8700 65 Watts
i7-8700T 35 Watts
Core i5: 4-core or 6-core, no HT
i5-8650X 112 Watts - 6-core
i5-8650K 91 Watts - 6-core
i5-8650 65 Watts - 6-core
i5-8600 65 Watts - 4-core
i5-8600T 35 Watts - 4-core
i5-8500 65 Watts - 4-core
i5-8500T 35 Watts - 4-core
i5-8400 65 Watts - 4-core
i5-8400T 35 Watts - 4-core
Well, the 7700K and 7600K are still at the top of the Amazon/Newegg sales lists even with the retailer Ryzen price cuts. So rushing out Coffee Lake and returning prices to Haswell levels is all you are gonna get.
That Richtek document doesn't mention Icelake-S even though it mentions H/U/Y ...
Because they are rushing out Coffee Lake-S, and Z390 isn't ready. So they hacked up Z270 to support Coffee Lake to be able to release it in August.
This is a hilarious thought process. Even if every single Home system builder thought that Ryzen was better. By sheer supply alone Intel will always sell more. Sure Ryzen had a couple weeks on the top with all the pent up desire and interest in the product prior to launch. But AMD is never going to outsell Intel anytime soon and they know it. Its part of the reason they are trying to push Zen into as many markets as quickly as they can. Not to strangle out Intel. But allow themselves to be profitible by having a 5-10-15% market share in those markets.Well, the 7700K and 7600K are still at the top of the Amazon/Newegg sales lists even with the retailer Ryzen price cuts. So rushing out Coffee Lake and returning prices to Haswell levels is all you are gonna get.
I don't see how a 6 core CPU without HT makes any sense at all in todays market. Seriously. With 8/16 CPU's being $300 now and 6/12's going for $200, why would anyone be interested in a 6 core 6 thread CPU? Performance would be right around where a 4/8 CPU would be. What a pointless and silly product to release. If Intel releases a 6/6 i5 chip, they will get laughed right out of the market. The only thing that makes less sense than that is releasing a 4/4 and 4/8 chip on their XTREME PLATFORM, which they totally just did. So actually I guess any product is possible for Intel, just as long as it finds a way to give the customer less for their money. That seems to be the leading criteria for product development these days for them.
I would buy a 6/6 machine if it was the same price as the previous year's 4/4 chip.I don't see how a 6 core CPU without HT makes any sense at all in todays market. Seriously. With 8/16 CPU's being $300 now and 6/12's going for $200, why would anyone be interested in a 6 core 6 thread CPU? Performance would be right around where a 4/8 CPU would be. What a pointless and silly product to release. If Intel releases a 6/6 i5 chip, they will get laughed right out of the market. The only thing that makes less sense than that is releasing a 4/4 and 4/8 chip on their XTREME PLATFORM, which they totally just did. So actually I guess any product is possible for Intel, just as long as it finds a way to give the customer less for their money. That seems to be the leading criteria for product development these days for them.
AMD isn't hurting Intel enough yet, obviously. The whole PC supply chain has been almost totally oriented around Intel since the Bulldozer disaster that it will take time to change. That, and Intel does way more marketing than AMD.
Edit - and Intel still has major sway with gamers and a lead in IPC. AMD is close, but this isn't horseshoes.
I don't see how a 6 core CPU without HT makes any sense at all in todays market.
i9-7900X (13.75M cache, 10 Cores, 20 Threads, 3.30 GHz, 14nm) - $989
i7-7820X (11M cache, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 3.60 GHz, 14nm) - $589
i7-7800X (8.25M cache, 6 Cores, 12 Threads, 3.50 GHz, 14nm) - $383
i7-7740X (8M cache, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 4.30 GHz, 14nm) - $339
i5-7640X (6M cache, 4 Cores, 4 Threads, 4.00 GHz, 14nm) $242
So no prices yet for the 12c part? They aren't going to even launch that?!?
Hmm, wonder why the 1-month delay? Odd.
When do they launch the 14-18c parts?
So no prices yet for the 12c part? They aren't going to even launch that?!?
The 7800X is priced almost the same as the 6800K because it is almost the same exact chip. Both are 6 core/12 thread. Both are quad DDR4 2400. Both are for single chip computers. Both are 140 W TDP. Both are 28 PCI lanes. The 7800X is a tiny bit faster base clock, a slightly faster turbo, a favored core, and tweaked cache. But it is basically the same chip.A 6 core chip coming in at $400 today is just ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. That's almost the same price as the 6800K was, a little cheaper yeah, but not by much.
Well, it says gen9, so I think the IGP is just the regular Intel Gen 9/9.5 IGP. The 1720Sps are the AMD video card.
Going beyond the fact that it's not Kabylake-G, it doesn't change anything that a 200mm2 on package GPU(which for all intents and purposes is an iGPU, same as Clarkdale was an iGPU) will make the costs and TDP rise substantially. In this case more than double. And we'll need to add expensive HBM stacks on tip of that.
It's already in leaked information that KBL-G has Gen 9 as well. A very rushed thing if it exists.