Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Arachnotronic]

It would make sense to get coffeelake-x on X299 to replace the kabylake-x. Keep Z270/Z370 only for mainstream cheap CPUs.

There is a Coffee Lake-X coming, just a question of when.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

It would make sense to get coffeelake-x on X299 to replace the kabylake-x. Keep Z270/Z370 only for mainstream cheap CPUs.

I would be all for such segmentation if the HEDT boards and quad channel RAM would be made more affordable. Another segmentation plan which I would personally prefer is up to 8C on mainstream and 10C+ on HEDT and make the latter a pure prosumer platform.

There is a Coffee Lake-X coming, just a question of when.

I've read about that a few months ago and kind of forgot about it. Another possibility might be that they will simply create Cascade Lake-X as a follow up (I don't think there will be Coffee Lake-SP Xeon's?).

 

[jpiniero]

I've read about that a few months ago and kind of forgot about it. Another possibility might be that they will simply create Cascade Lake-X as a follow up (I don't think there will be Coffee Lake-SP Xeon's?).

It's going to be both really. Cascade Lake-X replaces Skylake-X and Coffee Lake-X replaces Kaby Lake-X.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

It's going to be both really. Cascade Lake-X replaces Skylake-X and Coffee Lake-X replaces Kaby Lake-X.

Yeah why stop the confusion now, right!

But seriously, I cannot find a single reference to CCL-X? Only SP.

 

[Topweasel]

It's going to be both really. Cascade Lake-X replaces Skylake-X and Coffee Lake-X replaces Kaby Lake-X.

Wouldn't it be the other way around. Coffee Lake being the new arch gets the server chips and Cascade being a refresh gets the i7-X options?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Wouldn't it be the other way around. Coffee Lake being the new arch gets the server chips and Cascade being a refresh gets the i7-X options?

I give up. I've been drinking. I give up.

 

[jpiniero]

Wouldn't it be the other way around. Coffee Lake being the new arch gets the server chips and Cascade being a refresh gets the i7-X options?

Coffee isn't a new uarch. Cascade is just Skylake-X on 10++, Coffee is just Kaby on 10++.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Coffee isn't a new uarch. Cascade is just Skylake-X on 10++, Coffee is just Kaby on 10++.

14nm++

 

[Topweasel]

Coffee isn't a new uarch. Cascade is just Skylake-X on 10++, Coffee is just Kaby on 10++.

I thought the move to a 6 core also meant a arch change. Still if anything they would skip over coffee Lake sp then. No reason to do an i7 -X of weaker old core tech when doing the EE series update.

 

[jpiniero]

14nm++

Whoops! I meant 14++ for both, heh.

I thought the move to a 6 core also meant a arch change. Still if anything they would skip over coffee Lake sp then. No reason to do an i7 -X of weaker old core tech when doing the EE series update.

Coffee is just a filler processor since they don't want to do 10. There isn't going to be a Coffee-SP.

 

[Topweasel]

Whoops! I meant 14++ for both, heh.



Coffee is just a filler processor since they don't want to do 10. There isn't going to be a Coffee-SP.

Which was my other point they aren't going to do an X version of coffee Lake unless it's just a solo run next year to build on the KL-X. They aren't going to do a coffee Lake i7-X if it's launched with a more advanced SP release.

 

[jpiniero]

Which was my other point they aren't going to do an X version of coffee Lake unless it's just a solo run next year to build on the KL-X.

That's pretty much it.

 

[TahoeDust]

X299 boards are up on newegg

 

[Markfw]

X299 boards are up on newegg

Under servers or ?? Link ?

 

[multippp]

Under servers or ?? Link ?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...er=BESTMATCH&Description=x299&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

[formulav8]

There is a Coffee Lake-X coming, just a question of when.

Is it truly known officially CL requires new boards/chipsets other than KL? Has Intel officially said so yet?

 

[Markfw]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...er=BESTMATCH&Description=x299&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Every single one is out of stock. Worse than the Ryzen release.

 

[TahoeDust]

Processors are available for pre order from B&H with estimated ship date Monday. Prices are inflated ~12% over MSRP....Hmmm...

 

[mikk]

Every single one is out of stock. Worse than the Ryzen release.

It's called pre-order, official sales start is in a week. Then you can moan about.

 

[Jan Olšan]

Prices are inflated ~12% over MSRP....Hmmm...

IIRC the prices officially listed by Intel are not exactly retail recommended end price, but price when the store buys 1000 pieces - which is a lot for a highend CPU actually. I'm not sure how this exactly works (for example Ryzen prices matched the official price given by AMD after launch), but Anandtech's article suggested real pricing will be higher. Intel might have slightly understated the prices to make the CPUs look more attractive when people consider them without looking at real prices?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11464...ging-18core-hcc-silicon-to-consumers-for-1999

At this level, Intel is now going to charge $100/core, so this 10-core part runs in at a $999 tray price ($1049 retail likely).

it will be a 12-core processor on the same LGA2066 socket for $1199 (retail ~$1279)

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Newegg has the processors for preorder:

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemai...9&et_p1=&email64=Ymxhbmdob3JAaG90bWFpbC5jb20=

 

[Zucker2k]

Ark prices have always been MSRP (they are suggested, not mandatory). Early adopter 'tax' is in effect here. This is nothing new.

Intel is keeping a tight lid on this release. Not even a leak from the habitual Chinese nda breakers? It's not been this quiet around an Intel release in a long time. The calm before the storm?

 

[Jan Olšan]

https://ark.intel.com/products/123613/Intel-Core-i9-7900X-Processor-13_75M-Cache-up-to-4_30-GHz
ARK doesn't seem to actually list price for SKL-X.

http://images.anandtech.com/galleri...essor-family_product-information-page-019.jpg
The 999$ price from the slides is not MSRP apparently - "RCP pricing", for 1K units, I think? Anybody knows what RCP stands for?

 

[Arachnotronic]

I cancelled my 7900X + ROG Strix X299 from ShopBLT and just placed an order with Newegg for a 7900X + AORUS X299 Gaming 7.

Now I just need Gigabyte to put up a QVL for the DDR4 and I'll be ready to rock.

 

[Arachnotronic]

https://ark.intel.com/products/123613/Intel-Core-i9-7900X-Processor-13_75M-Cache-up-to-4_30-GHz
ARK doesn't seem to actually list price for SKL-X.

http://images.anandtech.com/galleri...essor-family_product-information-page-019.jpg
The 999$ price from the slides is not MSRP apparently - "RCP pricing", for 1K units, I think? Anybody knows what RCP stands for?

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