So Skylake is going to be like 4770K with crappy TIM and terrible overclocker and we have to wait for Kaby Lake for a real upgrade? So if you have a 4790K at 4.8GHz+ it's basically a nonexistent difference is what I'm seeing.
Yep, but they used to do that before (~10 years ago). But in those days the difference between desktop CPU generations was also far greater so it made sense.
If they'd sell IB/Haswell at a 30% discount when Skylake is released, then I bet those would sell better than Skylake.
If indeed it is cheaper, you make a good point. But since the startup costs are sunk costs, the chips they make from here on in cost them only the marginal costs. Now, if the marginal costs are higher, then you make an excellent point.Why would they want to enter AMD territory? Seriously though, why would they want to sell a larger die at a discount, when they can sell the supposedly cheaper to produce 14 nm skylake at full price.
If indeed it is cheaper, you make a good point. But since the startup costs are sunk costs, the chips they make from here on in cost them only the marginal costs. Now, if the marginal costs are higher, then you make an excellent point.
So Skylake is going to be like 4770K with crappy TIM and terrible overclocker and we have to wait for Kaby Lake for a real upgrade? So if you have a 4790K at 4.8GHz+ it's basically a nonexistent difference is what I'm seeing.
And anyway, leaked info does not depend on the Engineering Samples actually being sold. Someone just has to have access to them.
When I worked at a consumer electronics company some years ago, the biggest leaks we had were from in-house at our own company, and at external partner companies. I.e. all the people that need access to the products before launch. They can easily take pictures, run benchmarks etc and then leak that info.
I imagine there must be lots of people having access to Intel Engineering Sample CPUs too, without having bought them e.g. on eBay. For example all OEMs; companies producing motherboards, laptops, etc. So after all it's a bit strange we haven't seen much leaks even this close to launch.
People that have access to pre-launch product don't talk about it. One, you are under NDA. Two, if you ever want product again, you don't leak it. Three, if you work for a company of any size, you will most likely lose your job.
Every NDA I've ever signed states you can't even say you are under NDA.
I have servers in my lab right now that won't see daylight for 18 months. But you will never see me write a word about them.
I don't think the Best Buy stock boy taking a picture of a DVD player is in the same class.
So you expect people to risk their jobs/careers and financial future to leak info without getting compensated and without receiving any credit? Because the minute they try any kind of transaction or create a long lasting identity online they become targets.Just because a person has signed an NDA doesn't mean he/she cannot leak info. But of course by doing that person will break the NDA, which is illegal. That doesn't prevent it from happening in reality though. Just like making it illegal to steal cars doesn't prevent that from happening either.
So you expect people to risk their jobs/careers and financial future to leak info without getting compensated and without receiving any credit? Because the minute they try any kind of transaction or create a long lasting identity online they become targets.
DDR4-RS uses less power than DDR3l-RS. Only LPDDR3 is better on the power front.Interesting. So DDR4 is available for U series as well. I wonder how many will opt for that in a low power notebook, given that it consumes more power than LPDDR3/DDR3L? Perhaps intended for small desktop or AOI computers?
Interesting. So DDR4 is available for U series as well. I wonder how many will opt for that in a low power notebook, given that it consumes more power than LPDDR3/DDR3L?
DDR4-RS uses less power than DDR3l-RS. Only LPDDR3 is better on the power front.
People that have access to pre-launch product don't talk about it. One, you are under NDA. Two, if you ever want product again, you don't leak it. Three, if you work for a company of any size, you will most likely lose your job.
Every NDA I've ever signed states you can't even say you are under NDA.
I have servers in my lab right now that won't see daylight for 18 months. But you will never see me write a word about them.
I don't think the Best Buy stock boy taking a picture of a DVD player is in the same class.
Just because a person has signed an NDA doesn't mean he/she cannot leak info. But of course by doing that person will break the NDA, which is illegal. That doesn't prevent it from happening in reality though. Just like making it illegal to steal cars doesn't prevent that from happening either.
Tablet PC Italy @ Google Translate said:In areas of marketing and retail Milan begin to spread rumors about the launch of the Surface Pro 4: The new Tablet PC Microsoft would be expected to arrive in Italy on August 28, exactly one year after the launch of the Surface Pro 3.
The Surface Pro 4 would (finally) coming. There are currently no indications of any kind on the part of Microsoft, but certainly in the context of the "experts" more or less connected to the business, something is moving.
Accomplice probably the summer break - and therefore the need to do now that the work can not be done in a month - the signs are becoming more numerous and are all pointing towards a certain day, that of 28 August. It is, of course, for clues "between the lines" but in many cases are confirmed among them despite coming from different sources and not connected. It may not be the Surface Pro 4, it might not be just him, but almost certainly something Microsoft will launch in Italy in late August.
Indeed, making a few calculations, the date of 28 August would be perfect for the launch of a new Surface. The new units would have plenty of time to be produced and shipped (at the time still lack the final version of Windows from 10 pre-installed on the hard, which is why the new Surface can not yet be assembled in a complete and therefore will not be launched globally on July 29 along with the new operating system is the maximum possible launch limited to the US with a few thousand units) and slippage in August would also allow Microsoft to put new products on the new Intel Core sixth-generation ( Core i3-6100U, Core i5-6200U and Core i7-6500U) that may be a temporary exclusive Microsoft (similar to what happened with the Atom x7 for the Surface 3).
Clues and rumors - but significantly active. Perhaps soon we will see beautiful.
The Fully Integrated Voltage Regulator (FIVR) was one of the greatest innovations of the first "Haswell" processors and is found in all current Intel processors. Already exactly a year ago, however, came to the first rumors that Intel could reconsider this decision and maybe FIVR will install only to "Broadwell" generation - in addition, there were at this time simply no findings. By integrating the voltage converter Intel wanted to simplify the power supply to the motherboard, previously still had the five different voltages to the CPU package provide: Vcore, vgpu, VCCSA, VCCIO and PLL. In addition, this step should allow Intel more control over the supply to the processor, which should also attract savings in consumption by itself.
But the FIVR seems to be history for "Skylake" and "Kaby Lake" because Intel plans these two upcoming CPU generations without a corresponding integration. "Ice Lake", the codename of the next generation should, then reuse a FIVR. Besides the fact as such a reason we were even called from a confidential source: Too high a thermal design power of the overall package of the processor. This seems to have a negative impact on the overall system to have had, because the extra heat must Intel savings elsewhere.
"Kaby Lake" chipsets will get integrated a native USB 3.1 support from Intel. The "Kaby Lake" serve -S processors that are fully compatible with the upcoming Socket LGA1151 motherboards and will be offered again in several TDP levels for the desktop market. Should be there SKUs with 35 Watt, 65 Watt and 91 Watt, where the last TDP specification are reserved exclusively for K-models and thus have a unlocked multiplier.