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What about Atom? That had slower ST than prior Intel x86-compatible CPUs. Granted, that was a then-new, lower-power-oriented arch.
Come on. Generation-over-generation, SKU to SKU.
What about Atom? That had slower ST than prior Intel x86-compatible CPUs. Granted, that was a then-new, lower-power-oriented arch.
I don't think Icelake is going to be compatible even if they had planned for it at one point. I would think they would want to pair Icelake with Tiger.
No at the K level. I really think Core as an architecture is nearly tapped out clock speedwise, so while they will throw an extra 2 cores in there for Icelake you probably won't get much at ST or it will even be slower. And then Tiger would just improve clocks some more but not much if any at higher speeds.
Intel is only launching 6 Coffee Lake SKUs per the slides including the 2 overclockable SKUs, 8700K and 8600K and Z370 chipset this year, in January at CES 2018 Intel will launch the rest of the Coffee Lake SKUs including Pentiums and Celerons and the more future proof fully featured Z390 Cannonlake PCH chipset and consumer H3x0, business Q3x0, B3x0 and lower end H1xx chipsets, how anyone can get confused is quite perplexing. It's not rocket science, you know.
So Intel is going to allow CFL on the low end H1XX chipsets but not the Z170/Z270?
Maybe I missed it, but has Intel announced a release date for CFL-S. Looks like September from the graphic sweepr posted, but I'd like to know more precisely.
Apparently 7920x is coming out a week from now, on 12th August - if the information is true. Bit weird date given the fact thats Saturday. I wonder if there is any connection between the release date and the number of cores, i mean 12C allegedly released on the 12th day of August, 18C supposedly released on the 18th day of October... maybe 14C and 16C variants will come on 14th a 16th too.
Anyway, i demand more leaks! Why has nobody delidded the thing yet?
Performance = Clock speed * Perf/clock.
There is definitely something fishy going on with 12C+. 7940X is supposed to come like 2 months after 7920X. But its the same thing, except with 2 less cores deactivated. If they can manufacture 7920X, they can 7980XE as well as its the full version. I'm definitely waiting to see 7980XE before I buy anything.
The decision to do the 14-18 core model was probally like literally days after Threadripper was seriously rumored, and it does take time to formally productize it, etc.
There is definitely something fishy going on with 12C+. 7940X is supposed to come like 2 months after 7920X. But its the same thing, except with 2 less cores deactivated. If they can manufacture 7920X, they can 7980XE as well as its the full version. I'm definitely waiting to see 7980XE before I buy anything.
I guess it takes quite longer to produce sizable number of 7980XEs than 7920Xs, thus 2 month difference in release dates.
z270 says that as well iirc correctly.
Last time that technically happened was Broadwell. Sure we can argue it was only this corner case - high performance desktop - that saw ST regression, we can also argue that i7-5775C was a 65W TDP chip, but the truth is it was unlocked and could not clock high enough to match previous gen ST performance. On top of that it was late and had poor firmware support.Last time they actually did that was . . . hmm.
No it doesn't.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Inte...gVQKHR3oABkQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1280&bih=915#imgrc=_
Z370/CNL-PCH is indeed Next Gen.
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/...ne-SSD-Roadmap-2016-2017-3D-XPoint-Memory.jpg
The current Optane Memory branded drives are named Stony Beach and based on the presentation originally supposed to be called Optane Memory 8000p.
The next gen is said to come with "CNL Platform" and called Carson Beach with x4 NVMe speed update.
Actually, that depends on the workload. In some applications, even certain games, the extra cache made it equal to or faster than Haswell. In any case, the difference was very small. A reasonable overclock IIRC was about 4.2 plus 5% IPC over Haswell = 4.4 ish, while even the 4790k could usually do 4.7 or so, so less than 10% regression worst case.Last time that technically happened was Broadwell. Sure we can argue it was only this corner case - high performance desktop - that saw ST regression, we can also argue that i7-5775C was a 65W TDP chip, but the truth is it was unlocked and could not clock high enough to match previous gen ST performance. On top of that it was late and had poor firmware support.
Last time that technically happened was Broadwell. Sure we can argue it was only this corner case - high performance desktop - that saw ST regression, we can also argue that i7-5775C was a 65W TDP chip, but the truth is it was unlocked and could not clock high enough to match previous gen ST performance. On top of that it was late and had poor firmware support.
Even if it was a 1% performance regression, it was regression nonetheless.Actually, that depends on the workload. In some applications, even certain games, the extra cache made it equal to or faster than Haswell. In any case, the difference was very small.
It was an unlocked part priced accordingly. Let's not be naive, it was positioned differently because it couldn't deliver, not the other way around. I really doubt Intel had clock targets for Broadwell lower than Haswell, but it happened.5775C wasn't a proper successor to 4790K, and it was not positioned as such.
Z370 isn't CNL PCH. It's KBL Refresh PCH. Z390 is the actual CNL PCH.