No, they are being used to support the argument that Skylake-X represents a performance regression in games, not that it's "unusable".
So you are going to use older results when newer information is available?
My understanding is that you're being awfully testy for some reason. Angry that a mainstream Intel product is going to upstage an HEDT Intel product?
The crux of my argument is that I'm responding to flawed logic and arguments. I've not updated to any recent hardware release, I'm on the wait for z390 train, not the wait for z370 train so my patience is rational, not emotional.
Not really. I just have to accept it as a highly-probable fact, since right now, the best gaming CPU in a lot of games is . . . Kabylake. So take Kabylake, keep clocks the same, give it two more cores and some more L3. BAM! Coffeelake. Which will be the best gaming CPU.
The same as highly-assumptive conclusion. Or a highly-probable win as opposed to highly-probable bet. Learn the difference between probability and fact, I don't care if you're a native English speaker, go get a dictionary and relearn the language. You don't seem to accept the difference between want and have, present and future, know and hope.
You do realize that deductive reasoning actually has meritorious applications, don't you?
You have managed to rationalize the conclusion without having any evidence to back it up which makes it a speculation and assumed a highly-probable fact which is an oxymoron in itself. I call it misleading instead of valuable.
So you honestly think the 8700k will be SLOWER than the 7700k? Because right now, the 7700k is still the top-dog gaming CPU. Not the 7900X or 7920X or anything else . . . 7700k. You can get a few games faster on Broadwell-E vs Kabylake at stock because of the massive L3, but the 8700k will go a long way towards mitigating that effect.
When you'll have gaming results (we won't have to wait for those for too long), I'll agree with you. Until then 8700k for top dog cpu is expectation, not a fact or conclusion or truth.
The reason I'm responding to this is because you can see this sort of argument pretty often. Zen3 5Ghz 7nm process for best gaming cpu ever. And while between Coffee and Zen3 we'll see one sooner than the other, it doesn't help when the thing from the future with no information is being dragged in to current evaluation of data, it is a distraction.