Seeing as we can use these heatsinks, what is the best for overclocking? I've seen Noctua and Coolermaster models being rated high, but I have no idea what has the most bang for the buck.
/still running on a modified Tuniq Tower. :whiste:
Thanks! Post number 10 confirms it. Thank god!
What are your specs?
That has only scaled in core count, but not in price.
I do not like the idea of buying old tech, the 'high end' is too far behind for me to pay any attention to it anymore. We had a tick at 14nm, and soon we will have a tock. The idea of getting a bit better IPC and only 2 extra cores is not worth buying an entirely new mobo/ram/cpu....
I think the latest rumors are the broadwell highend will be out in 2016, that is after a skylake launch...
Ideally id like to drop a good $2000 or so and not think about a PC upgrade for another 3-4 years (other then GPU upgrades). I think that is part of my problem, the mainstream intel CPU are always so disappointing, while the highend are always so behind. I never feel like there is a good time to upgrade.
I have a 930, not 970. I do have a basic understanding of CPU archictuture, but your post more or less seems to be implying the reason why things are so expensive is so Intel can spend all that money on RND... I don't buy that.
This is all very depressing. I feel my computer really needs an upgrade, but skylake is not looking good for the performance/price... Sad times, I hope broadwell-e in q1 on next year will impress...
What a ridiculous thing to say.Because I remember him from another thread... He has no interest of being 'helpful'.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
Are you drunk?
Are you drunk?
Ahh, I didn't see that post. Off to do an edit!Yea, dont now why other posters are even trying to help someone with such an attitude.
...Adding capacitors to the power supply circuit of the Core i7-4790K “Devil’s Canyon” improved its average overclocking potential compared to the Core i7-4770K “Haswell”, thus one would expect the chip giant to use something similar on other microprocessors. Based on pictures of Intel Core i7-6700K published by Expreview and PCOnline.com.cn, the unlocked “Skylake” comes with power circuit that looks to be even more sophisticated than the one found on the “Devil’s Canyon”.
The amount of capacitors on the bottom of the Core i7-6700K “Skylake” is extremely high. Moreover, there are different types of capacitors with different capacitance, which means that power supply of Intel’s “Skylake” LGA1151 processors is completely different than power supply of Intel’s “Haswell” and “Devil’s Canyon” CPUs (which is logical, given the fact that the new chip lacks integrated voltage regulator). Moreover, the amount of elements in the circuit indicates that Intel wanted to ensure maximum overclocking potential of its new central processing unit. Still, keeping in mind that internal thermal interface of “Skylake” is similar to that of “Devil’s Canyon”, there will be limitations in overclockability of the new chips.
Yet they won't even solder the god damn IHS.Moreover, the amount of elements in the circuit indicates that Intel wanted to ensure maximum overclocking potential of its new central processing unit.
Yet they won't even solder the god damn IHS.
Yet they won't even solder the god damn IHS.
Blame the god damn iGPU... There's an older thread here that talks about the issues of solder fracturing with HW/BD/Sky iGPU dies. Intel went with TIM for reliability purposes...with adverse thermal effects due to the sloppy IHS mounting tolerances.
Overclocking potential and yet you will still need to delid it to reach that potential without going for obsene ammounts of cooling.
Intel Core Skylake-S CPUs to sport advanced power supply circuitry
www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/unlocked-intel-core-skylake-s-processors-to-sport-advanced-power-supply-circuitry
Alos MSI's motherboards listed @ ShopBLT: www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=%2521ORDERID%2521&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=skylake
That's interesting if true. There's only a single die, and Intel was able to solder SB. 22nm Xeons are soldered, so it seems strange that it's a technical limitation as opposed to a cost saving one.
I don't think the E3 Xeons were soldered.That's interesting if true. There's only a single die, and Intel was able to solder SB. 22nm Xeons are soldered, so it seems strange that it's a technical limitation as opposed to a cost saving one.
Explanations are almost totaly wrong..
Those capacitors are here for power supply decoupling purpose, the electrical points being decoupled are within the die but the capacitors cant be integrated given their size.
Increasing decouplings points, and total decoupling capacitance, allow to reduce voltages drops here and there within the chip, more capacitors are rather an indication that it is basicaly less stable than Haswell, and that Intel wants eventualy to reduce the voltage margins as a mean to reach the targeted perf/Watts "improvements".
He has a I7 930 X58 based system, or at least he did in April:
A 6700k would be a massive upgrade from a I7 930 - though if you feel it's not a large enough jump, then a x5660/x5670 Xeon would be a cheap alternative, though you'd obviously be stuck with year 2008 connectivity options.
You never contributed anything to my post but condescending useless remarks, so why would I want to hear what you have to say?What a ridiculous thing to say.
Are you drunk?
Ahh, I didn't see that post. Off to do an edit!
You are crafty, I like that
Yeah the 6700k would be a huge jump, but it's a principle thing. I cannot bring myself to 'reward' Intel for this lame improvement over the last generation.
That's interesting if true. There's only a single die, and Intel was able to solder SB. 22nm Xeons are soldered, so it seems strange that it's a technical limitation as opposed to a cost saving one.
The only remark I made about your post was to ask what your current specs are.You never contributed anything to my post but condescending useless remarks, so why would I want to hear what you have to say?
I am convinced intel could release a semi decent priced hex core skylake if they wanted to.
The 5820k is too old, and the 6700k has all the aforementioned problems. So unless the skylake price and performance is better then the 'leaked' info, it looks like broadwell-e is my only hope.