Plus Intel drivers still suck for their video cards. They display artefacts, some games basically don't work etc.
Nonsense.
Plus Intel drivers still suck for their video cards. They display artefacts, some games basically don't work etc.
Maybe HT is the one who reduces OC potential in contrast to real cores.
I don't think you understand how HT works. There are no real vs unreal cores. An I7 has the same number of cores as an I5.
What they need to do is put iris pro on a wider range of products. In any case though, I still dont buy the igp replacing mid range dgpus. Broadwell iris pro is close to what, GT 740? Even a 50% improvement is going to put it what, maybe GT750 level, but by the time that comes out there will hopefully be 14/16 nm dgpus that are a lot faster and more efficient in the 150.00 class. I could see them replacing 100.00 and lower dgpus, but mid-range, I dont buy it. The only possibility of that I see is with a Zen apu with HBM and something like twice the shaders of Kaveri. But that is probably 2 years, give or take away, and who knows what a mid-range dgpu will be like then.
BGA Skylake GT4e could arrive by the end of the year or early 2016 (LGA desktops later). H2-2016 is Kabylake GT4e 2x 128MB eDRAM time.
There's nothing that suggests that it exceeds TDP. If it looks like it the only reason is in comparison to the HD 4600 touting parts like the 4790K.but again, 65w broadwell has no trouble blowing power consumption well past what its TDP would suggest when both IGP and CPU are stressed.
So Intel is going to just release Skylake GT4e and Kabylake GT4e in 6-9 months of each other.
When things have been going slower every generation.
If anything Skylake GT4e would be late Q1 at April or so and Kabylake GT4e would be minimum 12 months after that, in Q1 2017.
CPU-World said:At the end of 2015 or at the beginning of 2016, Intel will introduce BGA versions of Xeon E3-1200 v5 chips with Premium graphics, featuring GT4 GPU and 128 MB eDRAM. The processors will have 4 CPU cores, and support only DDR4 memory.
I mean on physical components. There is a component that enables HT on Core i3 and i7.I don't think you understand how HT works. There are no real vs unreal cores. An I7 has the same number of cores as an I5.
What are your specs?This is all very depressing. I feel my computer really needs an upgrade, but skylake is not looking good for the performance/price... Sad times, I hope broadwell-e in q1 on next year will impress...
So Intel is going to just release Skylake GT4e and Kabylake GT4e in 6-9 months of each other.
When things have been going slower every generation.
If anything Skylake GT4e would be late Q1 at April or so and Kabylake GT4e would be minimum 12 months after that, in Q1 2017.
There's nothing that suggests that it exceeds TDP. If it looks like it the only reason is in comparison to the HD 4600 touting parts like the 4790K.
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/619...l-on-your-desktop-power-consumptionnigpu-idle
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/619...er-consumptionnigpu-3dmark-cloud-gate-average
4790K
-Idle: 36W
-Load: 67.7W
Difference: 31.1W
5775C
-Idle: 26.4W
-Load: 83.5W
Difference: 57.1W
The HD 4600 has far lower performance which coupled with today's advancement power management means the CPU doesn't need to clock as high so you save power on both CPU and GPU.
The Iris Pro 6200 with higher performance means not only all 14nm perf/watt gains are used up for better performance meaning no less power used by the iGPU, the CPU is less bottlenecked and can clock far higher.
But your comment wasn't about TDP, but rather about maximum power consumption, which is not the same thing.Neither your example or mine addresses my comment about TDP. I'm talking about total possible consumption, fully Loaded. i.e prime+furmark.
That's because most informed reviewers know Intel's power management is based on power metering, which allows the chip to fit exactly in it's rated TDP. And no, using 20-30% more power than rated TDP for limited periods of time due to Turbo Boost does not invalidate the TDP rating.It seems very few people want to do these tests / analyse things properly in their reviews. Quite frustrating
There's nothing that suggests that it exceeds TDP. If it looks like it the only reason is in comparison to the HD 4600 touting parts like the 4790K.
This is all very depressing. I feel my computer really needs an upgrade, but skylake is not looking good for the performance/price... Sad times, I hope broadwell-e in q1 on next year will impress...
Stupid question, but I'm going to build a new PC soon and have bought the case and CPU cooler. I was going to use an i5 4670, but since I waited this long I might as well get a Skylake. Now my CPU cooler I bought is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. Does any one know if that CPU cooler will work for a Skylake CPU? I guess the CPU might have different dimensions? I really like this CPU cooler and it has good reviews so I hope I could use it without ebaying it, researching and buying a different cooler. Damn thing is brand new.
TIA.
Stupid question, but I'm going to build a new PC soon and have bought the case and CPU cooler. I was going to use an i5 4670, but since I waited this long I might as well get a Skylake. Now my CPU cooler I bought is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. Does any one know if that CPU cooler will work for a Skylake CPU? I guess the CPU might have different dimensions? I really like this CPU cooler and it has good reviews so I hope I could use it without ebaying it, researching and buying a different cooler. Damn thing is brand new.
TIA.
But your comment wasn't about TDP, but rather about maximum power consumption, which is not the same thing.
That's because most informed reviewers know Intel's power management is based on power metering, which allows the chip to fit exactly in it's rated TDP. And no, using 20-30% more power than rated TDP for limited periods of time due to Turbo Boost does not invalidate the TDP rating.
The dark satanic rumour mill has suggested a good reason Microsoft delayed the launch of its flagship tablet-laptop, Surface Pro 4.
The latest rumours suggest that Microsoft was waiting to jack the latest Intel Skylake processor under its bonnet.
Redmond seemingly wants the new Surface Pro to be state of the art and be a tablet which is useful. Skylake will give it better battery life and performance with current industry standards like Bluetooth 4.1, Cat6 LTE, WiDi 6.0, and A4WP wireless charging weaved into it.
Intel will support the tablets through compatibility with 3D cameras and audio processing software plus better stylus interaction.
What are your specs?
I would wait for a couple of official reviews from reputable sites before you make your mind up on that. The leaks might all be bullshit.
That is none of your concern.
Why so hostile? Seems like he was just trying to be helpful since you said you really wanted to upgrade.