Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

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phillyman36

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Do you have to be a premier member with them to send back the motherboard that's part of a combo deal?

I have one yes. When I chatted with Newegg and she told me I could send the motherboard back she would not have known that. I mention this earlier in the post as im not sure how it exactly works but she said as long as i didnt open the motherboard box i would get a refund.

Newegg return policy

http://kb.newegg.com/Policies/Article/1167

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Additional Return Information

Combo, Bundle and Kit Specials

Combo, Bundle, and Kit Specials include two or more items that must be purchased together in order to receive a discount.

Items sold as part of a Combo, Bundle or Kit may be returned individually for replacement within the applicable Newegg Return Policy Period for that individual item.

If an individual Combo, Bundle or Kit item is returned for a refund, the applicable discount will be voided, and the discounted amount will be deducted from the amount of the refund. If your combo/bundle/kit discount amount is greater than the individual unit price of the item you wish to return, then the item cannot be returned for a refund; you will need to return all items in the combo/bundle/kit in order to receive a refund.
- For example: if your combo/bundle/kit discount was $5, and you return one of the items for a refund, the $5 will be deducted from your refund amount.
 
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Nice! I have to wonder though, for what purpose? The difference compared to the 4790K will hardly be noticeable...

Oh, I know it will hardly be noticeable, but this is my hobby

And, hey, the resale value of my 4790K/Z97 gear will offset a lot of the cost. :biggrin:
 

zerone555

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I have one yes. When I chatted with Newegg and she told me I could send the motherboard back she would not have known that. I mention this earlier in the post as im not sure how it exactly works but she said as long as i didnt open the motherboard box i would get a refund.

Newegg return policy

http://kb.newegg.com/Policies/Article/1167

Note
Additional Return Information

Combo, Bundle and Kit Specials

Combo, Bundle, and Kit Specials include two or more items that must be purchased together in order to receive a discount.

Items sold as part of a Combo, Bundle or Kit may be returned individually for replacement within the applicable Newegg Return Policy Period for that individual item.

If an individual Combo, Bundle or Kit item is returned for a refund, the applicable discount will be voided, and the discounted amount will be deducted from the amount of the refund. If your combo/bundle/kit discount amount is greater than the individual unit price of the item you wish to return, then the item cannot be returned for a refund; you will need to return all items in the combo/bundle/kit in order to receive a refund.
- For example: if your combo/bundle/kit discount was $5, and you return one of the items for a refund, the $5 will be deducted from your refund amount.

Thanks!
 

Sweepr

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HP just leaked the clocks of the low-end second-gen Core M (Skylake-Y) part:


Intel® Core™ M3-6Y30 with Intel® HD Graphics 515 (900 MHz, up to 2.2 GHz, 4 MB cache, 2 cores)

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/Australia...4X05PA&opt=&masteropt=&sel=DEF#merch-features

10-12.5% higher clocks than first-gen (Core M-5Y10c - 0.8-2.2GHz) + IPC bump is pretty solid, but there's room for a bigger improvement if the new generation can sustain Turbo speeds longer than Broadwell-Y.
 

Shivansps

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That's weird.

But then again naming isn't something that we can predict. It's something only the people making it up knows. For all I know it could be HD 525 just to differentiate from HD 520 in GT2 U.

Because if you go by "logic" then it should be based on performance, and both being HD 530 indicates they should have same performance.

It could also be a typo, or something they could change later. All we know right now is that the iGPU in 6600K/6700K is a GT2 and its HD 530.

For Haswell, GT1.5 Desktop is called HD 4400, same as the GT2 U parts. And it exists: http://ark.intel.com/products/family/75025/4th-Generation-Intel-Core-i3-Processors#@Desktop

I do think that the I3-6100 may be a GT1.5 part instead of GT2.
 

Fjodor2001

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Oh, I know it will hardly be noticeable, but this is my hobby

And, hey, the resale value of my 4790K/Z97 gear will offset a lot of the cost. :biggrin:

Fair enough, and that's a totally ok reason if you ask me. I've also done my share of "not economically motivated tech upgrades" over the years... :biggrin:
 

IntelUser2000

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http://h20386.www2.hp.com/Australia...4X05PA&opt=&masteropt=&sel=DEF#merch-features

10-12.5% higher clocks than first-gen (Core M-5Y10c - 0.8-2.2GHz) + IPC bump is pretty solid, but there's room for a bigger improvement if the new generation can sustain Turbo speeds longer than Broadwell-Y.

On the link its saying "liberating battery life", but the battery capacity is 32WHr. Actually 8 hours were promised for original Core M on that size, but we see that it was nowhere near that.

They were talking about 60% lower SoC level power, but right now the battery life is low enough that we probably need 60% increase in battery life to make it meet original expectations.
 

Fjodor2001

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On the link its saying "liberating battery life", but the battery capacity is 32WHr. Actually 8 hours were promised for original Core M on that size, but we see that it was nowhere near that.

They were talking about 60% lower SoC level power, but right now the battery life is low enough that we probably need 60% increase in battery life to make it meet original expectations.

Also, "Starting at 1.4 kg". Really not what I was hoping from an ultra low power 11.6" device... of course it's a convertible, but still...
 

Deders

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Well, that's his opinion I guess. But he is incorrect about Prime95 generating more current draw than any other application. Fully optimized linpack code will draw more for example.

I use Prime95 and Linpack as a stress test on all my CPUs (Skylake included). If I can run those stable (for a short duration), then I can run anything stable.

Aida64 is a great utility, and I have owned it for quite some time now, but its stress test is very tame in comparison.

He also says that systems that pass on Prime95 have been known to pass but then fail on Realbench at the same settings, despite Realbench using less current.
 

Sweepr

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Second Generation Core M (Skylake-Y) Specifications



Intel is going to launch Skylake desktop and mobile processors in a few days. As we already reported, the mobile lineup will consist of Skylake-H, Skylake-U and Skylake-Y products. The "H" microprocessors will deliver maximum performance at medium power consumption, while the "U" and "Y" series will be best suited in laptops with ultra low and extremely low power consumption requirements. We published specifications of the "H" and "U" chips in the recent past, and now we have some details on the 6Y30, 6Y54, 6Y57, 6Y75 "Y" series microprocessors.
Skylake-Y processors may get a new branding, Core m3, Core m5 or Core m7 depending on their performance. However, we are not 100% sure that the new branding will be official. After all, it could be just a way to distinguish between different performance segments on the roadmap. On the other hand, the third character in the 6Y30, 6Y54, 6Y57 and 6Y75 model numbers does match the new family brand, i.e. the 6Y30 belongs to Core m3 family, the 6Y54 and 6Y57 belong to Core m5 family, and the 6Y75 is from Core m7 family.
Regardless of the family, all upcoming Core m microprocessors have 2 CPU cores, 4 MB of shared L3 cache, Audio DSP, and HD 515 graphics, clocked at 300 MHz. The differences between Core m models are primarily in CPU and GPU clock speeds, and whether vPRo technology is supported or not. The Core m3 6Y30 is clocked at 900 MHz, boostable up to 2.2 GHz for one core. Its maximum GPU frequency is 850 MHz. Core m5 6Y54 and 6Y57 operate at 1.1 GHz, and their maximum Turbo Boost frequency is 2.4 GHz for both cores, or 2.7 GHz and 2.8 GHz for one core. Core m5 GPU has a maximum dynamic frequency of 900 MHz. Core i7 6Y75 runs at 1.2 GHz, and up to 3.1 GHz. Core m7 GPU is clocked at up to 1 GHz. The CPUs support VT-x and VT-d virtualization, and AES instructions. The Core m5 6Y57 and Core m7 6Y75 also support vPro and Trusted Execution technologies. All chips have up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s ports, 10 lanes of PCI-Express interface, 6 USB2/USB3 ports and eMMC 5.0 interface. They support USB OTG and Rapid Storage Technology 14. The Core m microprocessors work with DDR3L-1600 and LPDDR3-1866 memory, and they are rated at 4.5 Watt TDP and 3 Watt SDP. They can also run at higher 7 Watt TDP if needed.

www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015082701_Details_of_6th_generation_Core_M_processors.html

Higher CPU base and/or turbo clocks and graphics clocks depending on the model. 3W SDP/4.5W TDP. New naming scheme with low, mid and high-end models now.
 
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dahorns

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Second Generation Core M (Skylake-Y) Specifications



www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015082701_Details_of_6th_generation_Core_M_processors.html

Higher CPU base and/or turbo clocks and graphics clocks depending on the model. 3W SDP/4.5W TDP. New naming scheme with low, mid and high-end models now.

In context:

Broadwell 5y70
1.2 - 2.6 Ghz CPU
100 - 850 MHz GPU
Skylake 6y75
1.2 - 3.1 Ghz
300 - 1000 MHz GPU

I'm assuming that Intel will likely release a higher clocked version of the "m7" later, matching what it did with the 5y71 for Broadwell. However, even if you use the 5y71 (1.2-2.9 CPU/300-900 GPU) the Skylake part still has a sizable clock advantage.
 

Sweepr

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In context:

Broadwell 5y70
1.2 - 2.6 Ghz CPU
100 - 850 MHz GPU
Skylake 6y75
1.2 - 3.1 Ghz
300 - 1000 MHz GPU

I'm assuming that Intel will likely release a higher clocked version of the "m7" later, matching what it did with the 5y71 for Broadwell. However, even if you use the 5y71 (1.2-2.9 CPU/300-900 GPU) the Skylake part still has a sizable clock advantage.

Indeed. Very nice improvement at the same node and there will be higher-clocked models and Kabylake-Y (also 14nm) later on. Even better if Skylake-Y is able to sustain Turbo clocks for longer periods than Broadwell-Y.
With the new wave of large/premium tablets and convertibles after iPad Pro and Surface Pro 4 arrive later this year second-gen Core M will find its way to many devices (Core m7-6Y75 will be the star of the show).
 
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Indeed. Very nice improvement at the same node and there will be higher-clocked models and Kabylake-Y (also 14nm) later on. Even better if Skylake-Y is able to sustain Turbo clocks for longer periods than Broadwell-Y.
With the new wave of large/premium tablets and convertibles after iPad Pro and Surface Pro 4 arrive later this year second-gen Core M will find its way to many devices (Core m7-6Y75 will be the star of the show).

:thumbsup:

It'll be interesting to see what designs the OEMs cook up.
 

DrMrLordX

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Hmm. What're the implications of Skylake-Y's higher boost clocks with respect to power consumption?
 

Abwx

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Hmm. What're the implications of Skylake-Y's higher boost clocks with respect to power consumption?

800MHz chips will clock at 900MHz at same power, that s roughly 25% better perf/Watt.

Of course this wont be the case at higher power as this gain is allowed by lower power drain of the PCH and other uncore parts not related to CPU throughput, the intrinsical perf/Watt is still unknown since there s still no numbers, but it should be in the same ball park as BDW.
 
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throwa

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So when will Skylake laptops be for sale? As in ACTUALLY available on the internet, Amazon, newegg, etc

I could use an upgrade, my trusty Ivy bridge 3110m laptop is starting to show it's age.
 
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