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AtenRa

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I was attending Intel Technology Conference (ITC) Athens 2015 yesterday, nothing special to report this year.

Just a few pics,

Intel presentation



















 

AtenRa

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New 3D Xpoint SSD Technology



1000 times faster than NAND
1000 times more resilient than NAND
10 times density than traditional memory



First SSDs with Optane Technology will be available early 2016 for the Server market first.



2 in 1 last year



2 in 1 this year



Mobile market West Europe
Orange line = Laptops including 2 in 1
Green line = Laptops not including 2 in 1


 
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AtenRa

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And ASROCK Booth with a very interesting Z170 motherboard .









3x M2.0 ports

 
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witeken

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Still confused by the new eDRAM configuration.

BTW, this means Skylake has 2B transistors.
 

kimmel

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Still confused by the new eDRAM configuration.

BTW, this means Skylake has 2B transistors.

Wasn't the EDRAM in broadwell only for what was evicted from the LLC? I think they prefetch into the EDRAM in skylake.
 

Sweepr

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For all those of you interested in 15W Skylake-U GT3e (Iris Graphics 540), some fresh GFXBench scores:

- Manhattan 3.1 Offscreen: 63.5 FPS
Now we have five >60 FPS scores, so not an isolated case.
- Manhattan Offscreen: 91.6 FPS
- T-Rex Offscreen: 194.4 FPS

Compared to Skylake-U GT2 (HD Graphics 520):





~70% faster @ Manhattan
~76% faster @ T-Rex

AnandTech didn't test Manhattan 3.1 but the current top score for HD Graphics 520 is 39.7 FPS, so Iris Graphics 540 is ~60% faster.
Heck, it's already faster than the first Iris Pro, found inside 47-65W Haswell-H chips (in this benchmark).

47-65W Haswell-H (Iris Pro Graphics 5200)
- Manhattan 3.1 Offscreen: 61.2 FPS
- Manhattan Offscreen: 90.6 FPS
- T-Rex Offscreen: 154.8 FPS
 

dark zero

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If that is Skylake and NOT the Desktop Iris Pro.... RIP nVIDIA GTX 950 and AMD R9 370X then... both will get OP'ed by them...
 

Sweepr

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Benchmarking Intel's Skylake-U Series Core i7 Processor For Laptops

One of the first ultralight Intel Skylake-based machines to hit our test bench was delivered by team Lenovo. The company has refreshed and revamped their Yoga series notebook line-up with Skylake and the new Lenovo Yoga 900 is one of their more premium configurations with a 3K display, that just started shipping in the channel recently.

Seeing as this was one of the first Skylake-U series machines we had in for testing, we decided to work up a quick performance profile of the new platform here, replete with benchmarks in a number of areas and a quick and dirty heavy load battery test. In terms of quick specs, here's what the new Yoga 900 is made of...







>50% performance bump @ Far Cry 2 (from Haswell). Nice to see Gen 9 actually improving game performance.

http://hothardware.com/reviews/inte...ptop-processor-benchmarks#GVGcZPoouwZhQfDD.99
 
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Yea, nice improvement, but that is an old game at 720p. Doubt you could play current games at all, except undemanding ones like DOTA 2, LOL, and the like. Would like to see this matched up against Carrizzo at 15 watt TDP.

The Cinebench results arent that impressive though. Only about 10% improvement in open GL and 20% in cpu, but that is comparing a skylake i7 vs the best Broadwell score, which is an i5. It is hard to get an accurate comparison though, because the Broadwell scores are all over the place.

Edit: looking at the whole test, those are actually the only benchmarks that showed any significant improvement. Every other benchmark was pretty much a wash with haswell/broadwell, and battery life was actually shorter than several other models under the heavy load test.
 
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Sweepr

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Have you guys read this article?

Examining Intel's New Speed Shift Tech on Skylake: More Responsive Processors

Only two images not to pollute this page any further:





The processor in question is an Intel Core i7-6600U, with a base frequency of 2.6 GHz, and turbo frequency of 3.4 GHz. Despite the base frequency being rated on the box at 2.6 GHz, the processor can go all the way down to 400 Mhz when idle, so being able to ramp up quickly could make a big impact even on the U-series Skylake processors. My guess is that it will be even more beneficial to the Y series Core m3/m5/m7 parts since they have a larger dynamic range, and typically more thermal constraints.

The one missing link is operating system support. We’ve been told that the patch to enable this is coming to Windows 10 in November. While this short piece looks at what Speed Shift can bring to the table in terms of performance, if you'd like to read more about how it is implemented, please check out the Skylake architecture analysis which goes into more detail.

Update: Daniel Rubino at Windows Central has tested the latest Windows 10 Insider build 10586 and it appears to enable Speed Shift on his Surface Pro 4, which is in-line with the November timeline we were provided.

www.anandtech.com/show/9751/examining-intel-skylake-speed-shift-more-responsive-processors

Yea, nice improvement, but that is an old game at 720p. Doubt you could play current games at all, except undemanding ones like DOTA 2, LOL, and the like. Would like to see this matched up against Carrizzo at 15 watt TDP.

You're exagerating a bit. Sure, not some of the latest AAA titles (The Witcher 3 for example), but you can play some fairly demanding titles at lower resolutions. Some of those games were pretty much unplayable with Haswell.

- Dota 2
- Counter Strike Global Offensive
- Minecraft
- League of Legends
- Starcraft 2
- Guild Wars 2
- GTA V
- Left4Dead 2
- Battlefield 4
- Dying Light
- Smite
- The Witcher 3
- Civilization V
- Shogun 2
- Heroes of the Storm
- TES Skyrim
- Final Fantasy XIV
- Crysis 2
- Diablo III
- Metro Last Light
- Heroes of Newerth
 

ShintaiDK

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Speed Shift just raises the bar even higher in the mobile space. Becoming another essentials.
 
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Have you guys read this article?

Examining Intel's New Speed Shift Tech on Skylake: More Responsive Processors

Only two images not to pollute this page any further:









www.anandtech.com/show/9751/examining-intel-skylake-speed-shift-more-responsive-processors



You're exagerating a bit. Sure, not some of the latest AAA titles (The Witcher 3 for example), but you can play some fairly demanding titles at lower resolutions. Some of those games were pretty much unplayable with Haswell.

- Dota 2
- Counter Strike Global Offensive
- Minecraft
- League of Legends
- Starcraft 2
- Guild Wars 2
- GTA V
- Left4Dead 2
- Battlefield 4
- Dying Light
- Smite
- The Witcher 3
- Civilization V
- Shogun 2
- Heroes of the Storm
- TES Skyrim
- Final Fantasy XIV
- Crysis 2
- Diablo III
- Metro Last Light
- Heroes of Newerth

Well, the only two games on there that are new titles that I would consider demanding are GTAV (barely playable) and W3 (basically unplayable). But there is "playable" vs a good experience. If I am paying 1500 dollars for a device, and want to play games on it, I certainly want a better experience than sub 1080p on lowest settings. But I dont really consider a tablet a gaming device anyway. In fact in a 15 watt envelope, I would rather see intel put more emphasis on cpu performance and less on gpu. It would also be interesting to see the results from the i7 (has edram, right?). But in a 15 watt envelope, I have a feeling you are going to run into cpu throttling issues and possibly shift the limitation from gpu to cpu.
 

Sweepr

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Well, the only two games on there that are new titles that I would consider demanding are GTAV (barely playable) and W3 (basically unplayable). But there is "playable" vs a good experience.

I agree, but seriously the GTA V framerate above is not far from what I experienced with the X360/PS3 versions. It does get a bit better at lower resolutions though, not sure how great it looks at 1024x768 but it's more than playable.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHtSmNdcEzs

Here's Skylake vs Haswell:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Za1kKy1q1E

If I am paying 1500 dollars for a device, and want to play games on it, I certainly want a better experience than sub 1080p on lowest settings. But I dont really consider a tablet a gaming device anyway. In fact in a 15 watt envelope, I would rather see intel put more emphasis on cpu performance and less on gpu. It would also be interesting to see the results from the i7 (has edram, right?). But in a 15 watt envelope, I have a feeling you are going to run into cpu throttling issues and possibly shift the limitation from gpu to cpu.

That's the million dollar question, but at least in GFXBench it's beating HD Graphics 520 by 60-75%. Intel XTU should help unlocking that performance.
 

asendra

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For all those of you interested in 15W Skylake-U GT3e (Iris Graphics 540), some fresh GFXBench scores:

- Manhattan 3.1 Offscreen: 63.5 FPS
Now we have five >60 FPS scores, so not an isolated case.
- Manhattan Offscreen: 91.6 FPS
- T-Rex Offscreen: 194.4 FPS

Compared to Skylake-U GT2 (HD Graphics 520):





~70% faster @ Manhattan
~76% faster @ T-Rex

AnandTech didn't test Manhattan 3.1 but the current top score for HD Graphics 520 is 39.7 FPS, so Iris Graphics 540 is ~60% faster.
Heck, it's already faster than the first Iris Pro, found inside 47-65W Haswell-H chips (in this benchmark).

47-65W Haswell-H (Iris Pro Graphics 5200)
- Manhattan 3.1 Offscreen: 61.2 FPS
- Manhattan Offscreen: 90.6 FPS
- T-Rex Offscreen: 154.8 FPS

It's going to be interesting the next two weeks with the release of the iPad Pro.

If Apples numbers of 2x GPU performance for the iPad pro (vs iPad Air 2) end up being realistic it should put it between GT2 and GT3e in performance, closer to GT2 depending on the benchmark. It should compare quite well with a core m device.
 

VirtualLarry

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It's going to be interesting the next two weeks with the release of the iPad Pro.

If Apples numbers of 2x GPU performance for the iPad pro (vs iPad Air 2) end up being realistic it should put it between GT2 and GT3e in performance, closer to GT2 depending on the benchmark. It should compare quite well with a core m device.

Bring it, Apple! Intel needs to feel the heat of competition again!
 

ShintaiDK

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It's going to be interesting the next two weeks with the release of the iPad Pro.

If Apples numbers of 2x GPU performance for the iPad pro (vs iPad Air 2) end up being realistic it should put it between GT2 and GT3e in performance, closer to GT2 depending on the benchmark. It should compare quite well with a core m device.

Not really. FP16 vs FP32.
 

DrMrLordX

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3D Mark
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/9192029

Core i3 6300 HD530
ASUS H110M-K D3
2x 4GB DDR-3 1866MHz 9-10-9
Win 10 64bit

Wow, those scores are actually pretty bad. My 7700k wipes the floor with that thing (granted, while overclocked out the yinyang, but still . . . ). Though the physics scores are higher, but the graphics scores are just not there.

Question: is that system in your possession? If so, what memory speed options are available on that motherboard?
 

AtenRa

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Wow, those scores are actually pretty bad. My 7700k wipes the floor with that thing (granted, while overclocked out the yinyang, but still . . . ). Though the physics scores are higher, but the graphics scores are just not there.

Question: is that system in your possession? If so, what memory speed options are available on that motherboard?

Im currently testing that system, memory can be set at 1333,1600 and 1866MHz. That is the maximum for DDR-3.
 
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