Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[ShintaiDK]

Intel possibly introducing (some) desktop Skylake chips without iGPU:



www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015122701_Intel_launches_new_desktop_and_mobile_CPUs.html

If so, those numbers sounds very OEMish. Perhaps a direct OEM request.

 

[Flash831]

Already ordered a G1820+ $45 mobo and the platform was cheap enough for sure considering i will be able to drop in a 4gb 1333mhz ddr3 1.5v from my i5 2500 non k rig with no questionable compatibility.

I thought the Skylake DDR3-support was limited to DDR3L, so max 1.35v.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If so, those numbers sounds very OEMish. Perhaps a direct OEM request.

Or... a way for Intel to dump otherwise working CPU dice, with defective IGPs. It makes sense, given their difficulty fabricating 14nm Skylake CPUs (with working iGPUs).

 

[ShintaiDK]

Or... a way for Intel to dump otherwise working CPU dice, with defective IGPs. It makes sense, given their difficulty fabricating 14nm Skylake CPUs (with working iGPUs).

Working IGPs is very easy due to redundant logic. 23EU SKUs for example.

The 14nm is more a capacity issue than defect. Multipatterning takes up significantly more time (Intel seems to use SADP for 14nm).

 

[nvgpu]

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...cs-Driver-for-Windows-7-8-1-10-15-40-6th-Gen-

Latest Intel graphics driver for Skylake SKUs.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I thought the Skylake DDR3-support was limited to DDR3L, so max 1.35v.

I keep hearing that 1.5v should work,some motherboards do offer compatibility in their memory support but i guess that is boards undervolting it?Who knows at this point.

With all the ass Skylake is kicking all over the place,i would love to see some Celeron overclocking.:thumbsup: The 300A overclockers may just rejoice at the idea of overclocking another Celeron.

Skylake bringing out any $45-$50 Celeron options soon or is the buy in really starting at $65 for a cpu for a while?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Skylake bringing out any $45-$50 Celeron options soon or is the buy in really starting at $65 for a cpu for a while?

Huh, I just looked at the lineup, it turns out that Intel hasn't released a Celeron yet! I think it has to be coming soon, though.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Working IGPs is very easy due to redundant logic. 23EU SKUs for example.

The 14nm is more a capacity issue than defect. Multipatterning takes up significantly more time (Intel seems to use SADP for 14nm).

Yep, 14nm uses SADP to pattern the sub-80nm pitch layers. I also believe that triple patterning is used to pattern the fins (42nm pitch).

With 10nm, I believe Intel will be moving to SAQP to get their desired density.

 

[Deders]

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...cs-Driver-for-Windows-7-8-1-10-15-40-6th-Gen-

Latest Intel graphics driver for Skylake SKUs.

Just installed these and lost my HD Audio codecs on my Nvidia chip. I've sent this message to both Nvidia and Intel:

A few months back I spent ages troubleshooting why the HD audio codecs DTS-HD and Dolby True Audio were no longer working or showing up in the Supported Formats tab in Nvidia HD Audio properties. The problem has arisen again.

My previous "solution" was to enable the Intel 530 IGP and install drivers for it. These particular drivers (win64_154010.4300) didn't say they were going to install Intel's HD Audio drivers whereas all other drivers had these listed on the first page after executing the install. After I restarted, the Nvidia Audio driver reset itself from 5.1 96KHz to stereo 48KHz (defaults I presume) and the missing HD codecs appeared and I was able to use them.

Today I installed updated Intel IGP drivers (win64_154014.4352) and the HD codecs disappeared again, resetting to stereo 48KHz.

I've tried system restore but for some reason it was disabled, I don't remember disabling it.

I've tried disabling the IGP but this didn't restore the HD codecs.

I've tried using the previous Intel IGP driver but now the Intel HD audio drivers appear and install.

The Nvidia CPL reports that HDCP is active on both my display and receiver. (both are using separate cables DVI-D to monitor and HDMI to receiver.

 

[jpiniero]

Or... a way for Intel to dump otherwise working CPU dice, with defective IGPs. It makes sense, given their difficulty fabricating 14nm Skylake CPUs (with working iGPUs).

Have to figure that Intel normally turns the QC die with busted IGPs into Xeons. These might actually be sold at retail for a small discount.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Have to figure that Intel normally turns the QC die with busted IGPs into Xeons. These might actually be sold at retail for a small discount.

Considering that with a "SKY OC" (BCLK), the iGPU gets disabled anyways, then these "P" chips might be a bargain.

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...cs-Driver-for-Windows-7-8-1-10-15-40-6th-Gen-

Latest Intel graphics driver for Skylake SKUs.

"win64_154014.4352.zip" (Running Win7 64-bit Home Premium SP1)

NO BUENO!!!

I had 4300 installed, and tried to install these overtop. BSOD City!

So I booted to safe mode, uninstalled, re-installed 4300, uninstalled, rebooted, installed these cleanly, still, got a few "GPU recovered", then another BSOD!

These drivers are garbage! Doesn't Intel even test them any more?

I'd rather have a slower AMD APU, at least their drivers WORK.

Edit: And NO, I'm not overclocked. Everything is stock. PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 500W, nice clean stable power.

"The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 " (All three BSODs. All in Intel's kernel-mode graphics driver module.)

"The VIDEO_TDR_ ERROR bug check has a value of 0x00000116. This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed. "
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...0/5a75dfaf-7745-e011-9575-d8d385dcbb12?auth=1

I have Win 7 X 64 and have on board Intel(R) G35 Express Chipset

I am seeing seeing the same bugcheck i belive the culprit on the box is Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\igdkmd64.sys (8.14.10.1930, 5.89 MB (6,180,832 bytes), 9/23/2009 7:23 PM)

I have updated to the latest Bios, Win 7 Sp1 and looks like the driver igdkmd64.sys can be the issue.. igdkmd64.sys is graphics driver. I am looking for a newer version of this buggy driver,

That's the same file that's crashing on mine.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Considering that with a "SKY OC" (BCLK), the iGPU gets disabled anyways, then these "P" chips might be a bargain.

It is my understanding that iGPU disabling due to bclk OC is a driver feature. Intel could fix the drivers if they really wanted to . . . though I question whether or not that will ever happen. It might take a third party h4x0ring the drivers to accomplish that goal.

 

[mikk]

"win64_154014.4352.zip"

NO BUENO!!!

I had 4300 installed, and tried to install these overtop. BSOD City!

No issue here. What CPU do you use? Have you tried disc install method or did you use the setup?

 

[VirtualLarry]

No issue here. What CPU do you use? Have you tried disc install method or did you use the setup?

G4400 Skylake Pentium 3.3Ghz dual-core. Everything stock. And what is the "disc install method"? These drivers were downloaded, I don't understand the need for a disc...?

 

[ShintaiDK]

You previously wrote this:

I think that my G4400 may have a defective IGP. I haven't conclusively tested it though. Need to swap RAM and CPUs between boards to confirm.

Did you do any tests since?

And you should run Windows 10. Windows 7 isn't fully supported.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Did you do any tests since?

The release notes for these new drivers mention fixing "visual corruption". Since that's what I was seeing, I now think that perhaps there's nothing wrong with the iGPU on my CPU, that it is in fact a driver bug. There were no crashes or BSODs with 4300, just some minor image corruption in Waterfox.

And you should run Windows 10. Windows 7 isn't fully supported.

Says who? Win7 64-bit is a supported OS, until 2020. And the drivers specifically mention Win7.

Maybe MS may not be handing out WHQL certifications for Win7 drivers anymore, or something like that, but that does NOT mean that Win7 isn't supported.

Edit: Heck, plenty of businesses only JUST switched from XP to 7. And you think that Intel is going to simply just abandon all of those corporate users, that use Intel CPUs and IGPs? LOL.

Edit: Or worse, corporate purchasing managers explicitly choosing 4th gen Core systems (Haswell) over 6th gen Core (Skylake), specifically just to stay "Fully Supported" by Intel for Windows 7. Do you really think Intel wants that, to keep businesses from not even looking at their most current hardware offerings?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Tried memtest and such?

Says Intel.

Here are some of the issues:

Windows 7 only gets security fixes after it expired in January this year. Its a fast downhill slope.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Tried memtest and such?

Yes, I used the Win7 integrated Memtest, it passed. (Kingston DDR4-2133 RAM)

Says Intel.

Here are some of the issues:

Windows 7 only gets security fixes after it expired in January this year. Its a fast downhill slope.

Yes, we all know that Win7 doesn't support eMMC, SDXC, and xHCI. One thing notably missing from that list, is SKL Integrated Graphics. No mention of lack of support for the IGP in Win7. If that were true, it would be corporate suicide for Intel's business sales, as I mentioned.

 

[Sweepr]

Looks like the new Core i3/i5 models do have an iGPU, but it's HD 510 instead of HD 530. Assuming they're not OEM-only, perhaps Core i3-6098P and Core i5-6402P will be slightly cheaper than the current offerings?

https://benchlife.info/intel-launch-new-cpu-include-broadwell-and-skylake-12282015


ASRock also wants to play with Xeon E3 Skylake

Despite their names to opposing philosophies, the ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming Performance E3V5 / OC and ASRock E3V5 WS are close. Both are based on Intel C232 chipset. Both have two 16x PCIe 3.0 ports (one cable only 4x) compatible CrossFire, three PCIe 3.0 1x ports, four USB 3.0 ports and two USB 2.0 ports. Memory compatibility is also identical: four slots accepting normal or DDR4 ECC. Other common: six SATA ports, a Gigabit network controller Intel ... and the lack of other equipment.

www.tomshardware.fr/articles/asrock-xeon-skylake,1-58155.html#xtor=RSS-980

Huh, I just looked at the lineup, it turns out that Intel hasn't released a Celeron yet! I think it has to be coming soon, though.

Desktop Skylake-based Celeron will be launched in Q1-2016 as far as I know.

Latest Intel graphics driver for Skylake SKUs.

Thanks.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Nice info as always. So basically just minor broken IGPs to be sold as HD 510.

 

[dark zero]

INBF Intel starts to lock working locked i7s and pass them as i3 or locks low clocked i5s and pass them as Pentium. On AMD style.

Not joking, seeing what Intel is doing...

BTW, maybe the P tier chips are exclusive for Mac. Similar the DU ones.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Desktop Skylake-based Celeron will be launched in Q1-2016 as far as I know.

Good to know.Those building on the cheap wouldn't mind some Celeron loving.

Me myself i have NEVER been excited about a Celeron till i ordered the G1820.My first pc had a 478 based 1.8Ghz Celery and it was god awful for anything outside of booting up the pc.

I am excited about what the Skylake Celerons can do,that and if any of them can be tweaked in any way shape or form.The higher end chips like the i5 and i7 have their apparent better performance but where the Skylake Celerons land performance wise next to Haswell Pentiums should be interesting.

 

[AtenRa]

ASRock Z170 OC Formula Breaks More Records with Intel® Skylake

 

[Phynaz]

Suicide runs are useless.