Why were you even considering an I7, if a I3 is enough for your light computing needs? Also please remember that there are definitely use case scenarios to fully take advantage of a quad core CPU, such as the 6700k or 7700k. Just because you don't require it doesn't mean others don't!
And yet here you are asking the forum about socket compatibility with your newly bought Skylake board, an upgrade you were quick to acquire instead of fixing your old system to carry you on until a more meaningful product release. One could argue you are quite willing to feed the "hungry corporations", doubly so considering Q1 2017 also brings some sort of competition on the horizon, which might put pricing pressure on mainstream i5-i7 SKUs. Kaby Lake is no revolution, but let's not pretend the grapes are sour and enjoy our purchased products.IMO a 10% increase in speed is not something to brag about and is not a good upgrade. Many have been conditoned by the money hungry corporations to think that 10% is a great worthwhile upgrade. Its not. And its those people who are the reason why we are only getting 10% increases every year or two.
Show me a real life workload multi channel memory makes a significant difference?
I didn't upgrade my system to a 6600k because i wanted the small increase in power. I was forced to upgrade because my computer died on me and i needed a new motherboard or cpu either of which which would then make me need new ram and a mobo/cpu..... The exact opposite of what my comment was about.. Pay attention and explain what that has to do with people thinking 10% upgrades are great nd buying them up every releaseAnd yet here you are asking the forum about socket compatibility with your newly bought Skylake board, an upgrade you were quick to acquire instead of fixing your old system to carry you on until a more meaningful product release. One could argue you are quite willing to feed the "hungry corporations", doubly so considering Q1 2017 also brings some sort of competition on the horizon, which might put pricing pressure on mainstream i5-i7 SKUs. Kaby Lake is no revolution, but let's not pretend the grapes are sour and enjoy our purchased products.
Speaking of which, is your 6600k in already? How high did you go frequency wise?
I agree. Expect 10% and get 10%.IMO a 10% increase in speed is not something to brag about and is not a good upgrade. Many have been conditoned by the money hungry corporations to think that 10% is a great worthwhile upgrade. Its not. And its those people who are the reason why we are only getting 10% increases every year or two.
BenchLife does it again. New Skylake-X / Kaby Lake-X leak.
Skylake-X sampling, 2017 launch
https://benchlife.info/intel-skylake-x-cpu-start-sampling-11072016
I too am very curious about this, Kaby-X as well. Given the lack of iGPU, it would be difficult to account for a 112W TDP with the rumored ~200MHz higher clocks over the 7700k. Though it's 95W according to this.Edit: Anyone got a clue if AVX-512 will be enabled on Skylake-X or not? Thanks.
Except that KL is not a new core, so why would anyone expect a big increase?I agree. Expect 10% and get 10%.
IMO a 10% increase in speed is not something to brag about and is not a good upgrade. Many have been conditoned by the money hungry corporations to think that 10% is a great worthwhile upgrade. Its not. And its those people who are the reason why we are only getting 10% increases every year or two.
No, it's not enough to upgrade from anything recent..
BenchLife does it again. New Skylake-X / Kaby Lake-X leak.
Skylake-X sampling, 2017 launch
- X299 will be X99's successor for HEDT
- LGA 2066 will be the new socket (DDR4)
- Both Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X are LGA 2066
- Kaby Lake-X is a 95W TDP quad-core - not the same number of PCIe channels as Skylake-X
- Skylake-X is 140W TDP and comes in 6C, 8C and 10C variants
- Skylake-X 10C/20T gets 44 PCIe 3.0 channels, 8C/16T still unknown, 6C/12T gets 28 PCIe 3.0 channels
https://benchlife.info/intel-skylake-x-cpu-start-sampling-11072016
Same here!! Besides a 4.2Ghz base clock with a 4.4-4.6Ghz turbo isn't anything to cry about as far as upgrades go!!Hope the new 7700k memory base is 2400 over the 2133 that 6700k and all the other skylake cpus have.Yeah you can overclock to those speeds but the point is I wont have to!!Why not? These CPU's don't cost the earth. I'l replace my 6700k with a 7700k if they clock to 5.0Ghz on air.
I'll be upgrading from a 6700k if the 7700k does 5.0Ghz on air.
I think the disappointment comes from the fact that we are only getting the "core optimization" because what the real upgrade should have been, i.e. 10nm is delayed. This on top of the fact that since Sandy Bridge we have not really seen more than a 10% increase in any generation, and quite a bit less on some generations. And on top of that we have not seen any increase in mainstream core count or wide availability of possible other innovations like edram. I also dont see the reason for that much excitement even if KL can do 5ghz on air. I mean, even assuming it can do it for the majority of chips, which I am not convinced of yet, SKL already can do what, 4.7 to 4.8 fairly commonly, so it is really only about a 5 to 7% gain.No, it's not enough to upgrade from anything recent.
It's a nice speed increase from Intel for the same core.
Better choice for those who were waiting to go to 1151.
If it were a new core, KL would be a poor effort.
As a core optimization, it's a good job by Intel.
Still don't understand any disappointment with KL.
Can't see where any great expectations about ipc originated.
14nm + node is supposed to deliver higher clocks from what going around (not sure if Intel ever said this), but most speculate on 5% boost (w/o overclocking) - so no big increase.Except that KL is not a new core, so why would anyone expect a big increase?
SKL is pretty much guaranteed to hit 4.5, median oc is around 4.7, and everything above that is luck of the draw. In an optimistic (but likely) scenario KBL will have a 5Ghz median oc, hence real gains are indeed smaller than 10%. However, don't underestimate the power of "5Ghz". It's a nice round number, a psychological barrier if you will. Had they made Haswell consistently hit 5Ghz, Skylake would have had a really hard time convincing people of being a worthy successor. (successor, not immediate upgrade)SKL already can do what, 4.7 to 4.8 fairly commonly, so it is really only about a 5 to 7% gain.
14nm + node is supposed to deliver higher clocks from what going around (not sure if Intel ever said this), but most speculate on 5% boost (w/o overclocking) - so no big increase.
If KL-X is @ 112 W TDP vs 95w TDP (of S skus) then maybe we get 10% (maybe a bit more), still not really enough unless you have money burning a hole in your wallet.
Why not? These CPU's don't cost the earth. I'l replace my 6700k with a 7700k if they clock to 5.0Ghz on air.
I'll be upgrading from a 6700k if the 7700k does 5.0Ghz on air.
What are the chances of Kaby Lake-X or Skylake-X having eDRAM?
SKL already can do what, 4.7 to 4.8 fairly commonly, so it is really only about a 5 to 7% gain.
BenchLife does it again. New Skylake-X / Kaby Lake-X leak.
Skylake-X sampling, 2017 launch
- X299 will be X99's successor for HEDT
- LGA 2066 will be the new socket (DDR4)
- Both Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X are LGA 2066
- Kaby Lake-X is a 95W TDP quad-core - not the same number of PCIe channels as Skylake-X
- Skylake-X is 140W TDP and comes in 6C, 8C and 10C variants
- Skylake-X 10C/20T gets 44 PCIe 3.0 channels, 8C/16T still unknown, 6C/12T gets 28 PCIe 3.0 channels
https://benchlife.info/intel-skylake-x-cpu-start-sampling-11072016
So, just read this. Makes me wonder. KBL-X is only 95W, not the previously mentioned 112W (TDP). If the built in GPU is disabled - how many watts of headroom are gained?
Seems like it wouldn't be so awesome if the only thing the X platform offered was overclocking via unlocked multipliers.